ok, so I was talking to one of my buddies that has used gear for a long time and we started talking about growth and he told me that when he used growth, he was taking 40-50 IUs 5 on 2 off. I was like what the fu(k!! He said he had noticeable results within the first week and only had to do that for about a month. He said he had no sides at all either. My jaw about hit the floor when he told me that. Thats some crazy shit!