am i overtraining?

[nyny2916]

im on a 12 week test cycle kickstarted with d-bol and although my weight is up 23 lbs after 7 weeks i have not made great strength gains.

My routine is
Day1-Back/Tris
Day2-Legs/shoulders
Day3-Chest/Biceps
Day4- Rest
REPEAT

[S.P.G]

The split looks ok as overtraining goes, what’s the volume like...

[nyny2916]

i do 12 sets for each muscle except 9 for bis. I wasnt sure if it was a good idea to hit chest the day after shoulders because shoulders might not have time to recover.

[S.P.G]

i do 12 sets for each muscle except 9 for bis. I wasnt sure if it was a good idea to hit chest the day after shoulders because shoulders might not have time to recover.

Yes it would be a good idea to put chest and shoulder together because of the anterior head.

Sets don’t seen to over the top, maybe drop back 1-2 one small muscle groups ect, ect,

[Pinnacle]

im on a 12 week test cycle kickstarted with d-bol and although my weight is up 23 lbs after 7 weeks i have not made great strength gains.

My routine is
Day1-Back/Tris
Day2-Legs/shoulders
Day3-Chest/Biceps
Day4- Rest
REPEAT

Try braking this routine up.

Day 1 : Back/Tri's
Day 2 ; Off
Day 3 : Legs/Delts
Day 4 : Off
Day 5 : Chest/Bi's
Day 6 : Off
Day 7 : Repeat


Cardio on off days.Great for active recovery,and keeps Bf in check while putting on size and eating extra cals.

~Pinnacle~

[nyny2916]

pinnacle, i dont like the idea of training each muscle once a week i feel like thats gonna give me slower gains. id rather hit each muscle every 4-5 days. I have no idea what the results are like hitting each muscle once a week cuz ive never tried it so the results could be just as good but i cant get myself to try it!

[Dally]

are you doing any cardio?

what exactly are your goals besides gaining strength, which im assuming since you noted your lacking that regardless of size.

also, size would theoretically denote muscle gain...of course along with water and fat etc etc...but you say you strenght hasnt gone up AT ALL?

Im actually in the same boat but I am cutting and im doing cardio 6x week am.


my strenght however is not decreasing.

the reason I wouldn't do that routine pinnacle(however good it may be for you) is because I am healed and ready to go again in day 3 evening or day 4...so I wanna hit it.

like some nice poon right now!

[S.P.G]

Try braking this routine up.

Day 1 : Back/Tri's
Day 2 ; Off
Day 3 : Legs/Delts
Day 4 : Off
Day 5 : Chest/Bi's
Day 6 : Off
Day 7 : Repeat


Cardio on off days.Great for active recovery,and keeps Bf in check while putting on size and eating extra cals.

~Pinnacle~

looks good to me...

[nyny2916]

my strength has definitely went up since the start of the cycle but its nothing special. a lot of exercises im getting 1 rep per workout and i expected a lot better than that while on gear. recently i lost 20lbs off of shoulder presses out of nowhere.

[Dally]

my strength has definitely went up since the start of the cycle but its nothing special. a lot of exercises im getting 1 rep per workout and i expected a lot better than that while on gear. recently i lost 20lbs off of shoulder presses out of nowhere.

your going to have those off days ...dont worry too much about that...sounds like were in the same boat.

whats your carb intake like? what does it consist of?

are you doing FUKIN CARDIO@!!!! FACKKKKKKKKKKKkk I mean are you doin cardio?

ohhh I see.

[nyny2916]

i dont do any cardio cuz im just trying to gain as much muscle possible until march then ill start the cardio to get ripped for the summer.
i eat about 50% carbs so im getting enough carbs in i just see all these other people having outstanding strength gains and im like wtf lol

[Pinnacle]

my strength has definitely went up since the start of the cycle but its nothing special. a lot of exercises im getting 1 rep per workout and i expected a lot better than that while on gear. recently i lost 20lbs off of shoulder presses out of nowhere.

You want strength and size?You need to train as I posted above.You aren't giving your muscle groups enough time to recoup.This is a well proven training schedule.....go to intensemuscle and research there.Dogcrapp DOES no what he's talking about....


Good luck though....


~Pinnacle~

[nyny2916]

I was thinking of changing my split to this
Day1- Back+Tris
Day2- Shoulders
Day3- Legs
Day4- Chest+Bis
Day5- Rest
Repeat
This would give me more rest and not hit muscles indirectly on back to back days. Any complaints with this routine or should i just stick with my original of
Day1- Back+Tris
Day2-Legs+Shoulders
Day3-Chest/Bis
Day4- Rest
REPEAT

[Pinnacle]

You need rest days.....training back to back like that is stressing your CNS............think you can't over train on anabolics?I beg to differ.........

[nyny2916]

shit resting sucks

[Pinnacle]

shit resting sucks

No...that's when you grow.....your thinking is all wrong bro.....both of those routines you posted are horrible for growth.No wonder your strength is dropping and you aren't putting on good size...looking at that,I can see why.


~Pinnacle~

[Dally]

I tried to tell him pin....

look at my first post....GEESH!!

[nyny2916]

I GIVE UP!!!LOL
Im gonna take ur advice Pin and see how ur routine works out. Hopefully ill see some crazy strength gains in the near future

[Booz]

i would listen to pinn,i train each bodypart once a week and i find this the best way to gain muscle as each bodypart gets optimum rest!

[spound]

I have to back Pinn here. If you are worrying about only training each muscle once per week...then jsut bust the shit out of that muscle group on the day you work it. Go balls to the wall, so that you can justify the extra rest, if you cant get in the mindset that you grow when you rest