Do I include fiber and sugar carbs when looking at carbs?

[spittin' 'n cussin']

i know they arent as good as the good carbs, but do they make a difference at all?

[Austex]

From a low-carb diet standpoint:

For each 1 gram of fiber = -1 gram from total carbs. This yields your NET CARBS.

[Superballer]

I personally don't include any fiber or sugar when calculating my carbs for my macronutrients.

Same with protein. I don't include it unless it comes from my real protein source (i.e. I only count the protein from my egg whites during breakfast, not my oatmeal)

Fat I include no matter where it comes from (i.e. I count the fat in my oatmeal toward my macros)

I don't know if this is absolutely necessary, but I am bulking and would rather error on the side of more food rather than less food.

This also helps when I calculate my calories from my macronutrient ratio it is aprox. 4000.
However, when calculating from the packaging calories are around 4400-4500.