Short Cycle's VS Long... - Keeping Gains

[needbigguns]

Im interested to try a short cycle but im wondering, is it hard to keep gains with good PCT if HCG is used ? When i say short im talking 6 weeks, my gains stop around week 7 usualy but another member on this board pointed out that even though gains stop the cycle should still be carryed on as your body needs to adjust to the new weight gain..

[don anabolico]

6 weeks isnt a short cycle, your testicular axis is already had its damage. short cycles reffer to 2-4(max) weeks. im about to finish a 2.5 week cycle of tren and var. ive gained 9 solid lean pounds so far, plan on keeping 7.

[needbigguns]

what dosage of tren, there good gains in such a short period of time

[don anabolico]

what dosage of tren, there good gains in such a short period of time

145mg eod of tren, and 40 mg of btg var ed. on top of this my diet has been horrid to say the least (not eating enough as i should). you will get the same kinda gains over and over on the same dosage when you do short cycles.

[scotttiger54]

longer cycles is the only way to go imo. body reaches a point of homeostasis and learns to carry the new amt of bw. this is simply my experience. by nature im a smaller guy with a smaller frame, but dammit i have got to say ive changed all this! i have also had many an experienced user agree with me on this

[taiboxa]

i ran an 8+ month cycle kept just as much as i do w/ short ones

[juicy_brucy]

I like short tren cycles vs long test cycles. I do them both though. I love roids.

[taiboxa]

longer cycles is the only way to go imo. body reaches a point of homeostasis and learns to carry the new amt of bw. this is simply my experience. by nature im a smaller guy with a smaller frame, but dammit i have got to say ive changed all this! i have also had many an experienced user agree with me on this

i concur

[guest589745]

i ran an 8+ month cycle kept just as much as i do w/ short ones

Aww great, right when I was thinking they might be a good idea. A happy medium willl have to do....

[t-gunz]

wouldn't prop be a good short cycle e.g. 700mg/w 100mg ED for 3 weeks.. that seems IMO a good short cycle?? correect me if i'm wrong!!!

[marcus300]

longer cycles is the only way to go imo. body reaches a point of homeostasis and learns to carry the new amt of bw. this is simply my experience. by nature im a smaller guy with a smaller frame, but dammit i have got to say ive changed all this! i have also had many an experienced user agree with me on this

I dont agree, in my experience running longer cycles is not better than running the right short cycle plus primming, with longer cycle you build up a tollerance and eventurally the gear stops working,this varies between indivduals on the time scale,

After a long cycle there are major problem recovering, now if some chime in here and say "I DONT HAVE PROBLEM" thats because of your age but trust me you will have major problems one day and it will hit you hard, ive seen it many times over the years,

If you cant recover fast enough then you cant maintain the gains from the cycle so the end result is going back on sooner than you should, which in turn ends up giving you even more sides with the following cycle,

People are thinking a short cycle is just 30 days or 6 wks and thats it, NO its not short cycle is just a small part of the overall long process, priming takes around 6-8wks to prepare yourself for the short cycling,

I feel no matter what stage your at you must try all types of cycling and log all results, do a short cycle properly with prime and good pct and see which one you respond well to, many on here have no idea how to short cycle properly and have tunnel vision thinking there is only one way to cycle, take a look at the pro's, do they all run long cycles? infact some of the biggest pro's around run short cycles,

Try it and see for yourself.

[valcon]

I dont agree, in my experience running longer cycles is not better than running the right short cycle plus primming, with longer cycle you build up a tollerance and eventurally the gear stops working,this varies between indivduals on the time scale,

After a long cycle there are major problem recovering, now if some chime in here and say "I DONT HAVE PROBLEM" thats because of your age but trust me you will have major problems one day and it will hit you hard, ive seen it many times over the years,

If you cant recover fast enough then you cant maintain the gains from the cycle so the end result is going back on sooner than you should, which in turn ends up giving you even more sides with the following cycle,

People are thinking a short cycle is just 30 days or 6 wks and thats it, NO its not short cycle is just a small part of the overall long process, priming takes around 6-8wks to prepare yourself for the short cycling,

I feel no matter what stage your at you must try all types of cycling and log all results, do a short cycle properly with prime and good pct and see which one you respond well to, many on here have no idea how to short cycle properly and have tunnel vision thinking there is only one way to cycle, take a look at the pro's, do they all run long cycles? infact some of the biggest pro's around run short cycles,

Try it and see for yourself.

hey marcus , would it be good to prime the body for a long cycle , like the short one

[marcus300]

hey marcus , would it be good to prime the body for a long cycle , like the short one

Yes you can prime with any type of cycle, but the anabolic enviroment you create from primming doesnt last long thats why it ideal for short cycling but yes it works great with any type of cycling what makes you grow

[Swifto]

Experimenting is the key. I've done 2 14 weeks cycles and no short bursts yet. I will be trying a short burst perhaps this time next year.

[GHO5T]

Yes you can prime with any type of cycle, but the anabolic enviroment you create from primming doesnt last long thats why it ideal for short cycling but yes it works great with any type of cycling what makes you grow

marcus is short burst cycling effect only for bulking purposes, or do you do them for both cutting and bulking, just curious

[briansauras]

marcus is short burst cycling effect only for bulking purposes, or do you do them for both cutting and bulking, just curious

both, if using them for cutting incorporate gh, t3 or t4.

[marcus300]

marcus is short burst cycling effect only for bulking purposes, or do you do them for both cutting and bulking, just curious

You can use them for both just adjust the prime to suit and the compounds used for the cycle to determine cutting/bulking

[BGIZZLE8629]

Man, I must be an idiot... What the hell is priming??? I havent done much juicing.

[briancb1]

Man, I must be an idiot... What the hell is priming??? I havent done much juicing.

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[marcus300]

Man, I must be an idiot... What the hell is priming??? I havent done much juicing.

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