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I just came across a bottle of transdermal 4ad (4derm by dermabolics) thaought I thought was misplaced. anyways can this be taken by itself? will i see any results from it? any sides? etc. etc. any info you could help me with would be great... I dont want to waste but also dont want to waste my time with it for no reason.
AR VET
It is the shit! I took transdermal 4AD, Androsol by Biotest, and it was equivalent to test. I took 1g ED and that is like taking 50mg of test prop. ED. My libido was crazy, as were my strength and muscle mass gains. This was all before the ban though. I wish I still had some.Originally Posted by pg600rr
AR VET
Is this a spray-on, like Biotest's Androsol?
Banned
yeh 4ad is good shit if you get it from reputable maufacturers i remember an anaylsis they did of 4ad and nordiol of various maufacturers and the actual amounts per pill was far less than stated on the bottle, but its more likely with nordiol being as hard and expensive it is to produce.. but if it was me id run it with some m1t which is exactly what im doing in 2-3 months as soon as i find a more reputable maufacturer than the generic crap thats avialable to me right now.
Supplement Guru
you will absorb 30% of the total amount you put on
out of that 30% only 15% will turn into testosterone in your body
so say you put on 100mg you only get 30mg in your body and out of that 30mg only 4.5mg is testosterone
Supplement Guru
the human body makes around 7-10mg per day normally so your going to want to dose accordingly.
Junior Member
it is the spray by dermabolics called 4derm. 1 serving is 5 sprays and it says 200mg of 4ad per serving, bottle says it contains a total of 6 grams of 4ad in a highly bioavailable and sustained release (12 hour) topical skin formula. I originally bought it before the ban to use with m1t but misplaced and used the m1t now I have this and want to use it by itself> so how many sprays a day? I was hinking 8 a day split in two doses?? directions say 4 to 6 sprays once or twice a day.. also I should do some anti e's when i come of it? what about pct for this shit?
Supplement Guru
If you only have 1 bottle your NOT going to see much
This is best used with an another oral PH out to keep your test levels stable while the majority of mass comes from other said hormone.
AR VET
That isn't enough 4AD. I took 1g ED and that is where I saw great results. If you did that, you would only have 6 days worth. It is comparable to test so run a PCT that you would for a test-only cycle (that's if you run it at the higher dose).
Junior Member
ok thanks for the info> I wonder why dermabolics made the dosage so small?? anyways I think I am going touse it and see how it goes maybe it'll help a bit maybe not..but as long as it doen't hurt. One more question tho, this may sound stupid but.. since this is trans and not methyl(oral) it is fine to drink when using this right? the trans isn't going to put a strain on the liver?
Junior Member
bump
Supplement Guru
yeah you could drink and it wont effect the liver overtly but it wont be great for results
AR VET
What about drinking, while on PCT, after a phera plex cycle? Just some drinks on a Friday night, for example. How hard would this be on the liver?
Supplement Guru
it will deffenatley slow the liver down from recovering
AR VET
Thanks Bryan. I guess I will have to wait.
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