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Okay.. it seems like everytime I start my PCT my sex drive is completely gone. Nothing seems to be helping.. 5g trib, clomid, nolva, adex, even cialis doesn't help.. I've been on PCT for prob almost 3 weeks now i think.. Should i drop the clomid and start up some HCG? I def had a sex drive when i was using hcg then i dropped it for clomid and i have nothing now...
also my hcg froze and then defrosted can i still use it? and how long does it stay good if kept cold?
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some body has to have an idea on this.. help a brother out
AR VET
Have you tried tongkat ali? That helped me with libido issues.Originally Posted by ToTheBuckeT21
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not yet... i'll prob get some when i get paid on friday. I just feel that clomid distroys my sex drive
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from what i understand proviron is good too... just my source doesn't have it and i don't know were to get it
AR VET
He is an excellent post by Ntpadude (fellow member):
I take redkat myself and just 2 pills a day... after a couple weeks if you are still ON cycle, you will notice a nice return in size to your shrunken nuts. In PCT this stuff is really good, I am in PCT after 9 months of deca use at 600 mg a week and I have had the easiest PCT ever!!! Even easier then an 8 week testosterone only cycle without tongkat. There was virtually no decline in sex drive, actually it increased steadily when I missed the shot on week #1 and 3 weeks after my last test e shot I was experiencing the best sex drive I've had in a year. Grant it I started by redkat/tongkat ali about 4 months ago and stayed on steady. Now that PCT is over (no more clomid, etc) I am still going very strong, the most incredible wife gagging cum loads of my life and not only a vigorous sex drive, but the enjoyability factor while having sex is better then any "on testosterone" cycle I ever been on.
Yes while you can actually see improvements in "deca dick" in just 1 week, it really takes 1 month for your body to fully respond. I was deca dicked really bad in my 4th month on deca/test and the testosterone I took with the deca wasnt helping, balls ached and shrunk very badly. I started tongkat as last ditch effort to prevent stopping the cycle and the aches ended within 2 days of starting, balls started growing back noticably well by end of first week and sex drive and ability to maintain hard-on improved in a big way, even though I continued my deca doses for another 4 months! I have done tribulus before, tribulus doesnt seem to do anything like tongkat, but tongkat is basically your herbal HCG taken by mouth, it can and does easily overpower deca dick and ball shrinkage while on cycle. Also makes your steroids more effective by keeping down your SHBG's which deactivate testosterone and near testosterone compounds.
AR VET
I've heard the same and I can't find it either.
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Yea, payday i'll def get some tongkat.. I can get 75grams of 50:1 for $45... what do u think?
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or is there a kind that is really recomended
AR VET
I would run it by Bryan2 (supplement guru) tonight. Hit him with a PM. I used Redkat so it would be difficult to give you a recommendation on the extract ratio.
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do a google search theres alot of good deals on tong kat ali if you look
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Yea well i'm gonna get it on friday in powder and cap my own.. i have a little capper love it! but i think untill then i'm gonna drop the clomid wait 2 days and hop back on the HCG.. If i see no improvement after 2 weeks i'll finish up the clomid i guess
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yea sound good? thanks for the imput haha
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I am not sure if I am understanding you correctly, but you need to understand that during the actual PCT time (when the synthetic hormones have cleared your blood) HCG will hinder your body's recovery. The correct way to use HCG is to either use it at low dosages during your whole cycle to prevent testicular atrophy, or to use it at the end of your cycle (generally during the last two weeks) to bring the boy's back up to size before using the clomid/nolvadex/etc.
I think that you would be better off just continuing the clomid/nolvadex with some tongkat ali until your testosterone levels return to baseline levels.
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It helped me post cycle too. Gonna try it with my cycle next time.
MJ
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cool bro im gettin myself a capper and some trib powder soon too hell of alot cheaper than buying it already capped and im sure it doesnt take that long
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Okay.. so i'll stick with the clomid. Yea capper def worth it, i get my trib from trueprotein.com and i can cap like 24caps in 5 mins.. its not bad
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thats not bad what size caps do you use 00? and another question is do you use any fillers or you pack in trib straight as it comes also hows the delivery time from true protein jw i havent ordered but i will be soon getting the capper and some gel caps with trib. lemme know thanks for the help bro
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yea i use 00.. no fillers.. and delivery is really fast, i think it comes from CA and im in NJ and i get it in like 4 days.. also if ur lookin for caps look on ebay i get mine there and i get like 1,000 for $7
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http://cgi.ebay.com/Size-0-Capsule-F...QQcmdZViewItem
jump on that before anyone else does
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i just ordered it is that where you got yours from? if u did how long did it take to get your package in the mail?
AR VET
I used Redkat by Biotest with good results.
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im pumped another 3 days and ill have my capper cant wait im ordering some tongkat ali first and im gonna try that out before i try trib. cuz ive heard some not so good reports about trib that its not that effective but i hear raw tongkat is crazy for the sex drive and stuff so ill give it a shot and keep you updated on how good/bad it works
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