SD cycle preview

[III]

I will start my SD cycle monday and just wanted to make sure I've got everything covered!!!

I am currently on NO-Xplode, creatine monohydrate, CLA, Fish Oil, Animal Pak, L-Glutamine.
I will stop the NO-Xplode & creatine monohydrate during my cycle & get back on for PCT.

4 wk cycle 10/10/20/20
DURING
milk thistle 1 wk before & during @ 900mg/ED (Is this enough.......should I take milk thistle PCT as well?)
EFA's

Should I throw in some Flush-Free Niacin, Hawthorn Berry Extract & Red Rice Yeast? (I believe that Niacin is @ the top of the list, so would Niacin & Milk Thistle be enough?) Whats should be the dosages of all?

PCT 4 wks
Clomid 4 wks @ 100mg ED
I believe that I should be running all supplements during PCT, is that right?
I will start back w/ NO-Xplode & Creatine Monohydrate during my PCT.
Should I look into getting some Tribulus or Tongkat as well???

Thanks for all the info fellas, just want to do everything right to get the best results!!!

Oh yeah here is my stats:
5'5" 145 5%BF
25 yo
hardcore training for 5 yrs

[THE_DOME]

looking real similar to my plan, looks good
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=222808

[diponyou]

i am also starting a sd cycle on monday

mine is only going to be for three weeks tho cuz this is my first one.

its going to be 10/20/20

while on the cycle i have red yeast rice,hawthrone berry,no-flush niacin,policosinal,flax pills,milk thistle

ill be taking all throughout the whole cycle and pct.but i also have nolva for pct.

and also i will be taking creatine for pct.cant wait!

[III]

what kind of dosages for your milk thistle, hawthorn berry, niacin, red yeast rice during the cycle on during pct?

thnx 4 the info, gl on your cycles!

[THE_DOME]

hawthorn 1500-2000mg ed
milk 1000mg ed
ff niacin 1200-1500 ed
i am estimating the rest of the vitamins should be taken like 1000mg ed

[Lil man 10]

looking forward to seeing your gains, thinking of trying this type of cycle my self, Im about your stats a little heavier but Im bulking at the moment you said your bf is 5% that is unreal got any pics
And as far as your supps go I would take at least 1500mg- 2g niacin ed since it is slightly weaker than the regular form dont forget lots of water!!!!

[Lil man 10]

forgot to say I would go with nolva pct instead of clomid unless you have previously taken clomid and react well to it, IMO nolva is a superior compound with all the benefits of nolva plus and less sides, clomid has been known to affect ones vision while on it

[diponyou]

hey III

lookin forward toseeing what happens with your cycle.

my stats are 20 yrs old.5,9 180lbs
been working out hard for almost one year


what do you plan to gain from you cycle,are you just tryin to get bigger or are you tryin to imporve strength.

what are your goals as far as how much wieght do you want to gain.

im hoping at least 10 pounds after pct,and im hoping strength goes up in all categories.

im going to bust my ass in the gym tho.

[novastepp]

Vit. C Throws My Energy to a higher level,
1 take 6g ED...

[III]

Thanks for all the good info fellas. I will post before/after pics when cycle is over.

Dip........I am wanting to gain 10-12lbs of qaulity lean muscle, strength gains are really not what I'm looking for although it would be pretty sweet to join the 300 bench club for a guy of my stature (I'm @ 275 right now).
What I am really looking for is that insane vascularity, I love the garden hoses!!!!!!!

Lil..........I have a s_load of clomid left over and have used it before w/ no problems, so I might as well use that up. Next time I will go w/ Nolva.

Thanks again guys, I'll keep you boys updated about the progress!

[THE_DOME]

hey III you should put this in the members cycle progress and take pics

[diponyou]

you weigh 145 and you can bench 275,something is wrong here

[SVTMuscle*]

5'5 145 pounds? Do you look like a 5th grader?

Good luck with that stuff man

[diponyou]

so youve obviously done some form of sd,pp,or test and still only 145.

how long you been working out for.what is your diet

[RuhlFreak55]

i don't understand the rationale of stopping your NOxplode and creatine during the cycle? can anyone elaborate?......

[diponyou]

ill i know is that creatine will not be effective while doing sd.dont quote me though.i just know its not smart to take both

[novastepp]

i think he is stopping the creatine so he can accurately see what his gains from superdrol only will be. but if this were the case he shouldn't run it until after PCT though...so i don't know for sure...
and i would take Hawthorn Berry if i were you III...
people die of cardiovascular problems before they die of liver problems...
i think heart protection is very important.
and yeah some Trib or Tongkat would be smart for PCT...

[diponyou]

so i got hawthorne berry and policonsonal is this overkill for my superdrol cycel

[diponyou]

so i got hawthorne berry and policonsonal is this overkill for my superdrol cycel

[D-Bo Dre]

Damn another one starting a SD cycle this coming Monday.. I thought it was just u and me Diponyou.. Tight.. I’m doing it 4 weeks though.. 10/20/20/20. I’m 5’7 165lbs. Hoping to hit 175-180. I’ve been eating and training like a madman.. I’ve been taking 200mg (1 pill) of Milk Thistle and Multivitamins for a week now. On Monday I will start with the SD accompanied by the following supplements.

Week 1- Milk thistle (1pill); Multivitamins (1pill); Hawthorn berry (1pill); Niacin (1pill); Censor (1pill); SD (1pill)

Week 2; 3; 4- Milk thistle (2pills); Multivitamins (2pills); Hawthorn berry (2pills); Niacin (2pills); Censor (2pills); SD (2pills)

PCT-

Week 5; 6; 7; 8; Milk thistle (2pills); Multivitamins (2pills); Hawthorn berry (2pills); Niacin (2pills); Censor (2pills); Nolva @ 40mg; then 20mg weeks 6-8.

Question The Dome: Since I’m running basically all my supplements throughout and then during PCT don’t you think that hawthorn at 1500-2000mg ed; Milk 1000mg ed; niacin 1200-1500 ed is a little much???

Also what advice would you guys give as to the times I should be taking all this shit?? Spread out during the Morning; afternoon; night?? Or all at once? And Superdrol should be takin -1 of training right?

Thanks for your help ppl.

[III]

5'5 145 pounds? Do you look like a 5th grader?

Good luck with that stuff man

Nah, but I am a little dude, I have sprinter legs, not much mass at all on my lower body. When I tell people how much I weigh they are always surprised, I look like I weigh about 155-160. My upper body is on point!
Hoping w/ the SD cycle I will add some thickness to my legs!

[III]

so youve obviously done some form of sd,pp,or test and still only 145.

how long you been working out for.what is your diet

This is my first cycle w/ SD, I have experimented w/ a test/eq cycle and a test/eq cycle and had awesome results.
I've been working out for about 8 yrs/ 5 yrs hardcore! I follow a strict diet: chicken, tuna, rice, oatmeal, whey, etc........ very little fat!
I don't want to be walking around looking like a midget, know what I mean?

[III]

i think he is stopping the creatine so he can accurately see what his gains from superdrol only will be. but if this were the case he shouldn't run it until after PCT though...so i don't know for sure...
and i would take Hawthorn Berry if i were you III...
people die of cardiovascular problems before they die of liver problems...
i think heart protection is very important.
and yeah some Trib or Tongkat would be smart for PCT...

yeah I am stopping my intake of creatine because of the water weight and SD is a diuretic, only makes sense. I also want to see what gains I get from the SD cycle. I will start the creatine intake back up for pct to help solidify my gains.
I've got some Hawthorn Berry as well that I will be using during/after, thanks for the advice fellas..............

[diponyou]

Damn another one starting a SD cycle this coming Monday.. I thought it was just u and me Diponyou.. Tight.. I’m doing it 4 weeks though.. 10/20/20/20. I’m 5’7 165lbs. Hoping to hit 175-180. I’ve been eating and training like a madman.. I’ve been taking 200mg (1 pill) of Milk Thistle and Multivitamins for a week now. On Monday I will start with the SD accompanied by the following supplements.

Week 1- Milk thistle (1pill); Multivitamins (1pill); Hawthorn berry (1pill); Niacin (1pill); Censor (1pill); SD (1pill)

Week 2; 3; 4- Milk thistle (2pills); Multivitamins (2pills); Hawthorn berry (2pills); Niacin (2pills); Censor (2pills); SD (2pills)

PCT-

Week 5; 6; 7; 8; Milk thistle (2pills); Multivitamins (2pills); Hawthorn berry (2pills); Niacin (2pills); Censor (2pills); Nolva @ 40mg; then 20mg weeks 6-8.

Question The Dome: Since I’m running basically all my supplements throughout and then during PCT don’t you think that hawthorn at 1500-2000mg ed; Milk 1000mg ed; niacin 1200-1500 ed is a little much???

Also what advice would you guys give as to the times I should be taking all this shit?? Spread out during the Morning; afternoon; night?? Or all at once? And Superdrol should be takin -1 of training right?

Thanks for your help ppl.

i start taking my pills in the morning ande spread throguhout the day.if needed.

[III]

i start taking my pills in the morning ande spread throguhout the day.if needed.

Oh definately, thats how I always do it so thats the plan!

[Milky87]

yeah I am stopping my intake of creatine because of the water weight and SD is a diuretic, only makes sense. I also want to see what gains I get from the SD cycle. I will start the creatine intake back up for pct to help solidify my gains.
I've got some Hawthorn Berry as well that I will be using during/after, thanks for the advice fellas..............

Chances are that you wont actually solidify your gains by adding the creatine. By addign the creatine, you will reintroduce more water into your muscles, meaning you will gain some weight, but when you stop gaain, it will come off

[III]

Chances are that you wont actually solidify your gains by adding the creatine. By addign the creatine, you will reintroduce more water into your muscles, meaning you will gain some weight, but when you stop gaain, it will come off

With proper PCT, which is: Clomid, Niacin, Milk Thistle, NO-Xplode, & Tongkat Ali, I believe that I will be able to keep all of my gains. Isn't that the key???

And if I gain a few lbs. during PCT b/c of the NO-Xplode thats fine. Thats one of the reasons that I am taking in during PCT, so that I won't lose any of my gains while on SD cycle.
I usually take creatine year around!

[diponyou]

your sapposed to take creatine in cycles i believe.you are sapposed to go on for awhiel then go offfor awhile.i believe.

but anyways.did you start you sd cycle today.ive started mine today,cant wait for a couple weeks to see gains i get.good luck

[III]

your sapposed to take creatine in cycles i believe.you are sapposed to go on for awhiel then go offfor awhile.i believe.

but anyways.did you start you sd cycle today.ive started mine today,cant wait for a couple weeks to see gains i get.good luck

DIP....actually took my first pill yesterday, I wanted to go ahead and get it in my system, bout to go and hit the gym right now. Yeah bro I cant wait either.....I am going to keep a SD diary thread, so keep me updated on your gains too.............

[Milky87]

With proper PCT, which is: Clomid, Niacin, Milk Thistle, NO-Xplode, & Tongkat Ali, I believe that I will be able to keep all of my gains. Isn't that the key???

And if I gain a few lbs. during PCT b/c of the NO-Xplode thats fine. Thats one of the reasons that I am taking in during PCT, so that I won't lose any of my gains while on SD cycle.
I usually take creatine year around!

You would most likely be replacing the lost muscle with water.

your sapposed to take creatine in cycles i believe.you are sapposed to go on for awhiel then go offfor awhile.i believe.

but anyways.did you start you sd cycle today.ive started mine today,cant wait for a couple weeks to see gains i get.good luck

Supplementing with creatine does decrease your body's ability to produce it, but considering you are feeding yourself more than normal, I dont see why this is a problem. Cycling will just have you alternating from low(er) creatine levels to high(er), while taking it continually will make your levels high

[THE_DOME]

Damn another one starting a SD cycle this coming Monday.. I thought it was just u and me Diponyou.. Tight.. I’m doing it 4 weeks though.. 10/20/20/20. I’m 5’7 165lbs. Hoping to hit 175-180. I’ve been eating and training like a madman.. I’ve been taking 200mg (1 pill) of Milk Thistle and Multivitamins for a week now. On Monday I will start with the SD accompanied by the following supplements.

Week 1- Milk thistle (1pill); Multivitamins (1pill); Hawthorn berry (1pill); Niacin (1pill); Censor (1pill); SD (1pill)

Week 2; 3; 4- Milk thistle (2pills); Multivitamins (2pills); Hawthorn berry (2pills); Niacin (2pills); Censor (2pills); SD (2pills)

PCT-

Week 5; 6; 7; 8; Milk thistle (2pills); Multivitamins (2pills); Hawthorn berry (2pills); Niacin (2pills); Censor (2pills); Nolva @ 40mg; then 20mg weeks 6-8.

Question The Dome: Since I’m running basically all my supplements throughout and then during PCT don’t you think that hawthorn at 1500-2000mg ed; Milk 1000mg ed; niacin 1200-1500 ed is a little much???

Also what advice would you guys give as to the times I should be taking all this shit?? Spread out during the Morning; afternoon; night?? Or all at once? And Superdrol should be takin -1 of training right?

Thanks for your help ppl.

in my eyes for vitamins i would rather be safe than sorry, if my body doesnt want that much i will pee it out. i take my pills in the morning and then a second dose at 4pm. this is the way i role

[THE_DOME]

looks like we have an abundance of superdrol cycle being started on 2/20 including me, lets get an official sd day by day analysis of our results. there all may vary, mine being that i am running a little bit higher doseage starting with sd at 20mg. dbol, 111 and dip let me know how your sd is treating you.
day 1,2 have been very good great endurance in the gym and strenght proabally due to placebo effect.

[Milky87]

in my eyes for vitamins i would rather be safe than sorry, if my body doesnt want that much i will pee it out. i take my pills in the morning and then a second dose at 4pm. this is the way i role

fat-soluable vitamins such as E and can build up to a toxic level if taken in too higher doses

[THE_DOME]

these vitamins are to prevent any problems, an amount such as 1500mg is not somethiing i would worry about. milky did you get a chance to read what pills i am taking? If so which ones would you lower on your sd cycle? thanks for your response

[III]

Days 1 & 2 went well, both good workouts. I did chest/back on mon. & bis/tris on tues. very intense and good pumps during both workouts especially bis/tris (they were on swole), chest & back were both sore tues. gained 1 lb the first day (I will take 1 lb a day everyday)!
delts/traps/legs today (wed.)
My diet has been good and seems like I am eating more than normal (probably all in the mind since its only day 3)!

Gotta go eat!!!

[THE_DOME]

day three of sd eating great training great, may be weird but i put on 5lbs in less than 5 days, keep me posted on everyones sd cycle

[diponyou]

mines good.

strength feels up due to placebo for sure but i dont care,its up.

havent got on the scale yet.

diet doing reall good.

about to hit the gym rite now and get some shoulders in.

ill go hit the scale while im there.

i was at 175 when i started

[THE_DOME]

keep me posted dip

[III]

Delts/Traps (AM)
very good shoulder workout this morning, strength is increasing ie: (Smith Machine Shoulder Press 145-12, 155-10, 165-8, 175-6). Very intense pumps, delts felt like they were going to explode. Started to get a little nauscious toward the end of the workout b/c I was running out of caloric energy.

Legs/Calves/Abs (PM)
evening workout went really well, killed legs and this is key since I am needing to gain some size in my legs during this cycle.

all in all, everything is going well so far, diet is kicking ass and no sign of any sides yet (but its still early). Got chest/back again 2morrow!
oh yeah up another lb. today (2 in 2 days)!

Gotta go eat!

[diponyou]

man III you get 2 workouts in.i wish i could do that.are you even able to recover?

well i worked out my shoulders today and it was a pretty decent workout.nothing spectacular but it was cool.

do any of you guys know when strength gains are sapposed to come??


no sides yet but its way to early to tell.