1st cycle...I need some advice?

[upstater12]

I am about to start taking my stuff.

I am 6'5" 225lb at about 10% bF

I would like to be about 245-250 with the same bf

Money is tight and im new with the ...oouice

Here is what I have planned out so far:

Test E- 10 ml EQ-10ml WINNY-20ml

Week 1 250mg (M and Th) 200mg (M and Th) 100mg EOD
Week 2 250mg (M and Th) 200mg (M and Th) 100mg EOD
Week 3 250mg (M and Th) 200mg (M and Th) 100mg EOD
Week 4 250mg (M and Th) 200mg (M and Th) 100mg EOD
Week 5 250mg (M and Th) 200mg (M and Th) 100mg EOD
Week 6 100mg EOD
Week 7 100mg EOD



I plan on taking in about 300g of protein each day.

take it easy on me im new...

[FranKieC]

Take out the winnie and run Test E at 500mgs for 10-12 weeks with propper PCT and you will be happy.

[Boricua Pump]

Definately will be happy if this is your first cycle, only do Test Enanthate and you will still LOVE it.

[joeben22]

First cycle, run Test E for 12 weeks at 500mgs/week. Eat and train right and be sure to have proper pct in line and you are good to go.

[muscle_20]

i dont think putting on 20lb of pure muscle is possible you need to bulk to put the muscle on then diet any excess fat...if you allways worry about body fat you wont make the correct gains.300grams protien is very little in my opinion i would up it to around 400grams spread out into as many meals as poss.
why would you take 100mg winstrol every 2nd day and not 50mg every day?also i dont think winstrol is a suitable drug for your goals(its pretty damn toxic also!).i would just stick to the test and eq.in the last two weeks it dont make sense to use 100mg every 2nd day cause you will be left hanging around for ages after your last shot waiting to get the last of the test out of your system so you can start pct,why not swap to prop instead and take that every 2nd day instead in the last two weeks.
just my two cents.

[Booz]

1st cycle should consist of nothin more than 500mg test weekly for 10-12 weeks,make sure you have any antis on hand you think you may need and your pct should be sorted before you start the cycle!

[Rolsroyce]

First I want to say welcome bro. I agree with M_20, you cant worry so much about bodyfat when you are gaining. You will not eat enough calories if you do. Eat big and train hard and get plenty of sleep. Dont worry about carbs unless they are empty calories. Now with that said, you are over doing it for a first cycle bro. Save the EQ for next time. Use the test-e,I would go up to 500-600 mgs a week.Only need to take this once every five to seven days,not twice a week unless you just like to stick yourself. I see you have 250mg/ml test so you need to get a little more.I would go for like 10 weeks and use the winny for the last 5 weeks along with the test.

[Booz]

test enathate should be administerd twice weekly to keep your blood levels more stable.

[upstater12]

the comments are appreciated!

[hosam4ever]

week 1-12 500 mg test e 2x ew
week 3-12 10 mg nolva ed
then pct after 2 weeks of last test e shoot

[Rolsroyce]

do you guys have blood work to prove that it needs to be administered twice a week? Interested in this view.Thanks Booz.

[Booz]

no i have not had blood work to prove this but i do get my bloods done before after and sometimes during,the active life of enanthate is around 14 days,i personally think that by inj twice weekly it stops the blood levels dropping off which will mean no spiking of your blood levels.
i think that by splitting your dose up twice weekly can only be benificial to the user,most of the time if you are using 2 or more compounds it has to be split anyhows!
im sure someone else will chime in with a more scientific answer.

[Rolsroyce]

does make since Booz,thanks for the input and views. Always ready to listen to new ideas...

[Kale]

no i have not had blood work to prove this but i do get my bloods done before after and sometimes during,the active life of enanthate is around 14 days,i personally think that by inj twice weekly it stops the blood levels dropping off which will mean no spiking of your blood levels.
i think that by splitting your dose up twice weekly can only be benificial to the user,most of the time if you are using 2 or more compounds it has to be split anyhows!
im sure someone else will chime in with a more scientific answer.

No scientific answer but common sense would tell me that what you are saying is correct

[Rolsroyce]

yeah ,makes since but it is nice to see proof you know. The halflife is two weeks ,ok so hitting it every five-seven days should do the trick. Common sense says that is correct as well wouldnt you say. Im just saying its nice to see it on paper when you are making a point otherwise it doesnt have anything to back it. I can say anything, because I beleive it to be so doesnt make it true.

[goalseeker]

week 1-12 500 mg test e 2x ew
week 3-12 10 mg nolva ed
then pct after 2 weeks of last test e shoot

....I agree with Hosam.....