steroids at natural peak?

[English Power Lifter]

Most information on the best time to start steroids in one's life is usually answered with: "At your natural peak". That is then answered with at the age of 21,22 or 23 you will hit your peak with a good few years of training under the belt. But if you think about it at this age your testosterone levels are peaking in one's life, but over a few more years i believe you could still make gains only small gains, but still make gains. So if someone whos trained for years and say hits the age of 26,27 or 28 when they start the steroids they will overcome someone who started at 22 for example. As they'll hit a standing point, but the longer natural one will be able to continue growing beyond the earlier steroid starter. And therefore be better in the long run. Is that true? Or would the differance only be slight?

[Steele]

here's what my experience and intuition has taught me:
reaching your "natural" peak means that given your current natural levels of anabolic hormones (insulin sensitivity, gh secretion, igf levels, testosterone levels, t-3 levels, and myostatin gene) you have gained and carry as much muscle as your current hormone levels will allow. if you want to continue growing you must increase your hormone levels to continue to see growth. it is all relative to each persons genetic ability to produce growth factors, when you reach a plateau, it is time to add more growth factors. i don't think who is natural longer matters at all. look at ronnie coleman. he was natural and became a pro. then his gains probabbly slowed and now he supplements hormones to make his body continue to grow, and he is over 40 years old!!!

[TAlexa]

Bro if you had twin brothers one went on to achieve his natural potential then took steriods the other started to take steriods before he reached his natural potential, in the long term whos going to be better ?

[English Power Lifter]

Obviously it'd be the one who reached his natural potential first, id say. But starting at say 23 for example, isnt your true natural potential because you could still gain an amount of muscle over the years. So with that in mind, you should be even better starting at a later age, when you truely cannot gain anymore muscle.
I dont know when Ronnie Coleman started steroids and he must have done a good few years of training without steroids i would have imagined. He's in his forties now and he is NO.1 now in the bodybuilding scene. Genetics play an important role which most people know, which has helped Ronnie get to where he is today...

[English Power Lifter]

No champion has ever kept off the steroids till that age. If someone did this, an up and coming athlete, then i would imagine they'd over take past Bodybuilders if their genetics are as good. Just a theory that i believe no one has done yet.

[chest6]

I highly doubt Ronnie made it pro without steroids. He has claimed before that he has always been natural. Yeah right.

[AnabolicBoy1981]

good question. but then theres the fact that gh levelss are higher at 21-23 so the synergistic effect of anabolics added would be somewhat better than at 27, 28, but i think the overall difference is probably slight. i dunno.