Cycle check!

[neverenuff21]

Ok this could use a little refining but how?

week 1-12 letro .75 eod
week 1-10 test e 300wkly
week 1-10 deca 400wkly
week 1-12 prop 200wkly eod@50
week 11-12 HCG 500ius eod
week 13-15 clomid 300/100 for ten days/50for ten days
week 13-16 nolva 20mgs/day

Theres the latest draft. tear it up!
4th cycle with lots of rest between
24 yrs/6'4" 205/6% bf
7 years lifting

[Booz]

just a question mate but why the test e and prop all the way thru??

[neverenuff21]

well i considered dropping the prop at 6 and picking it up again at 11-12 up to pct but I want to run deca at 400 so i figured i would need more test. Should i just up the test e to 500 and do that

[Booz]

well i considered dropping the prop at 6 and picking it up again at 11-12 up to pct but I want to run deca at 400 so i figured i would need more test. Should i just up the test e to 500 and do that

i would mate,up the test e and run the prop 1st 4 weeks and then leading into your pct,i would run the hcg ed for ten days,then 3 days later start your clomid therapy....

[neverenuff21]

how much hcg ed?

[Booz]

i will use 500iu ed,but then again i do not run clomid anymore mate,read this.....

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/article...le-therapy.htm

[Swifto]

Go one better and kickstart with an oral and end with Test Prop. Something like:

wk 1-12 Test Enan 500mg/wk
wk 1-11 Deca 400mg/wk
wk 1-4 Tbol 50mg/ED OR Dbol 40mg/ED
wk 8-14 Test Prop 75mg/ED
wk 1-PCT HCG 250-1000ius/wk (Splitting the injections)
wk 1-14 Letro 0.75mg/ED

PCT is 14 days after last Test Enan shot. 3 days after last Test Prop shot and 21 days after last Deca shot. I dont know what your PCT protocol is, mine is:

wk 1-3 HCG 1000ius/ED (Mon/Wed/Fri)
wk 1-5 Nolva 20mg/ED
wk 1-5 Proviron 50mg/ED

[neverenuff21]

good read bro! thanks but... that suggests using hcg only for post cycle. And if i'm not mistaken, wouldnt nolva lessen my deca during cycle if i used it throughout?

[Booz]

good read bro! thanks but... that suggests using hcg only for post cycle. And if i'm not mistaken, wouldnt nolva lessen my deca during cycle if i used it throughout?

read it again mate it says to use nolvadex throughout the pct protocul at 20mg ed.....well i use hcg throughout a cycle with tren or deca,then run this pct also,why would you not be able to do both???

[neverenuff21]

thanks swifto! I knew you were lerking. Ideally, I'd run that protocol but I dont have access to proviron. So that being said, what then?

[Swifto]

thanks swifto! I knew you were lerking. Ideally, I'd run that protocol but I dont have access to proviron. So that being said, what then?

You could just go with HCG/Nolva. Do you have access to Aromasin? That would be a good idea. Run as Hooker states in the link Booz provided.

Nolva is run during PCT as Booz said. It will prevent the suppression of Ganadotropins that HCG use may bring. Increase LH/FSH and block any unwanted estrogen.

[neverenuff21]

yeah i know, sorry that was supposed to be a seperate question.

[neverenuff21]

Ok so How about
week 1-3 500 eod HCG
week 1-5 20mg/ed Nolva
week 1-4 ???mgs Aromasin

[Swifto]

Ok so How about
week 1-3 500 eod HCG
week 1-5 20mg/ed Nolva
week 1-4 ???mgs Aromasin

Read the link Booz provided. The PCT I've suggested is slightly different. But its been effective for me, but may not work for others, try it.

The Aromasin is dosed at 20mg/ED for 5 weeks I believe.

[Booz]

dont forget the 1000ius vitE mate.if you read the thread correctly it will tell you why it is needed....

[neverenuff21]

just drop the letro at the beginning of pct and use nolva aromasin then?20mg ed a peice

[Swifto]

You could do PCT with Nolva and Aromasin at 20mg/ED for 5 weeks but I;d rather add some HCG into the mix. As I, or Hooker state. Also Vit-E should be added and will increase the effectiveness of the HCG, like the big man said...

[neverenuff21]

yeah, thats it. All three, Thanks fellas.

[Swifto]

yeah, thats it. All three, Thanks fellas.

No problem.

[neverenuff21]

Its gonna be beautiful! I can see it now, over the horizon....just got a small case of gyno the get rid of first. I'll let you know how goes it.