Never again, am i doing clen.
I started out at 124 lbs and i wwent down to 119.
then on my 2 weeks off while still taking ECA i got up to 125
WHAT IS THIS!
i hate clen rebound!
and i dind't change my diet and i kept my workout the same!
Never again, am i doing clen.
I started out at 124 lbs and i wwent down to 119.
then on my 2 weeks off while still taking ECA i got up to 125
WHAT IS THIS!
i hate clen rebound!
and i dind't change my diet and i kept my workout the same!
I went straight for a long time
via the benadryl method, last
year.Loved it, and was able to
keep it all off.Never tried 2on/2off
Never heard of that myself. Maybe you shoulda never taken teh two weeks off. I definitely believe that clen should be run 6-8 weeks right through, no breaks. This just means you need to take 50mg Benadryl every third week for the entire week before bed.
-Bino
Damn you beat me to it. Good advice.Originally Posted by SS1476
-Bino
I don't really see where a "clen rebound" can come into play... do you have any information on this... I know there is such thing as an "estrogen rebound"... just never heard of one with clen.Originally Posted by Mizz*Jacqui
Were you taking ECA and Clen at the same time? Then dropped the Clen for 2 weeks while continuing to run the ECA?Originally Posted by Mizz*Jacqui
i took the clen for 2 weeks,
then i stopped and took THERMOLEAN ( EC )
then when i went to start back up on my 2 weeks i had gained the 6 pounds.
I never did the ECA and CLEN at the same time.
Never heard of a clen rebound. Would your menstrual cycle have anything to do with it?
clen rebound i believe has something to do with cortisol, like there is more circulating and the cns affect from the clen fries you out. i have no science to back this up but i had a nasty reaction to coming off of clen (but that was when i relied heavily on the drugs to do the work and did little to take care of myself naturally). needless to say, i wouldnt touch clen ever again, not worth it to me. but i do believe you, my wife had a similar reaction and she used benedryl too. may be its not for everyone.
Originally Posted by Mizz*Jacqui
What does Thermolean consist of? Looks to be Ephedra and Caffeine but I'd rather ask.
I see so many do 2 weeks on and 2 weeks of Clen which doesnt make much sense to me. Then on top of that they'll take ECA or Ephedra during their 2 weeks off. Makes no sense what so ever to me but maybe it does to others.
Last edited by SPIKE; 03-13-2006 at 04:45 PM.
aren't you skittles lol
Could maybe be that your working out and diet has added a little muscle. Are you actually looking bigger or do you just weigh more?
u shouldnt do ECA and clen like that either... how do u look in the mirror, do u think u actually gained? After some weeks of clen I do feel like shit for a while (clen crash) but that rebound thing is new to me.. sounds a a lil odd.
what is the role of cortisol u r suggesting herE?Originally Posted by timtim
thermolean is effederine and cafeine. no aspril so its really an EC - A STACK LOL
but i took clen for 2 weeks because after all the research i did, and people i talked to, i found that clen does not work after 2 weeks in your system anyways.
regardless if this is true, i chose to use that method on my cycle.
i do feel bigger, and by CLEN REBOUND i mean. all the weight i lost off of clen came back right away.
Karma's a biatch jk lolOriginally Posted by Mizz*Jacqui
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Whooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaa if this isnt an overstatement and a half Mizzzzzzzzzz Jacqui. I have to agree that I feel as Clen will give you the best effects right from the start. But, do not rule out its effectiveness at all and think by taking 2 weeks off will totally make everything better. Not only that but you did what most do, you took 2 weeks off and supplemented something else in its place. Since people (including myself) are so g-dam impatient you chose to use another "supplement" while off the clen.Originally Posted by Mizz*Jacqui
Before I keep going on with this let me ask you a question. Anyone else feel free to tackle this one. Why do people take 2 weeks of Clen? I'm going somewhere with this one, trust me..............
lol that's skittles.Originally Posted by Hackamaniac
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I thought she was suspended, rofllllllll.
I thought she was banned not suspendedOriginally Posted by Smak
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Originally Posted by Hackamaniac
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Cocky, arrogant biatch.
rofl it's all about the karma you should watch My name is Earl he'll teach you haha
Mizz Jacqi,
Aren't you like 19?
Why don't you try cardio and diet before playing with clen like it's a necessity to make you skinny.
be responsible for your diet in cardio there was no rebound effect you either consumed more calories or did less cardio but good luck you know i feel for ya hahaha
I was going to do the 2 on/2off with the eca in between, as this was a route that has some following. Then i read that the point of the 2 week break was to let your beta receptors refresh themselves, and they wouldn't do that while being hit with EC, in fact taking the EC would make the break absolutly pointless. I think i'm going to take the benedryl route.
Just when I was about to duck out of this thread some light is shined on the situation. This thread was beginning to look like it was meant to be in the lounge not the AAS forumOriginally Posted by brutesinme
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You're right that this protocol does have a pretty large following. The explanation that you gave about time off was great. Why take something that is doing exactly what you are trying not to do with time off the clen?Makes no sense to me, I guess it doesnt to you as well. That's a good thing.
You were right on point when you said what I bolded in red.
due to the taxed cns there is more cortisol circulating, sort of in a negative feedback loop. this is how it was explained to me. there was also mention of the adrenal glands being taxed which have an impact on the cortisol levels too. obviously the culprit is the increased cortisol levels.what is the role of cortisol u r suggesting herE?
i have nothing to back this up with, NO SCIENCE. at the same time i found out about this the same person told me that clen chews up non-replenishing minerals in the heart tissue, which has been found in rats, cell death does occur at what would be @ 2000mcg a day in humans. i was told this in like 2000, never touched it again. imo, clen is pretty crappy. the results are negligible and the same effect can be had with the PROPER implementation of cardio and calorie cycling. these dont tax the heart at all. the last time i did clen my resting heart rate was above 120 bpm. the last day i clearly remember waking up and my heart rate was 110 and my bp was through the roof, not worth it.
Try supplementing tyrosine and phenylalanine on your off time, just a thought. Although I would say don't bother with the 2on/2off cycle if you don't use clen that often. Use anti-hist every 3rd week or so.
I personally like the weeks on 2 weeks off the best.. BUT if u do that U SHOULDNT do the ECA stack in between... it says so too in the clen profile here at AR.. By doing that u r still affecting the same receptors (partly) as u are with clen.....
to timtim... Iva also read the studies of clen and Im also concerned in th e possible effects on the heart... That said I think the way ypur friend worded it to you is wrong and Im a lil skeptical on the cortsol theory.. I mean when u diet ur cortisol get high anyway so that shouldnt lead to gaining weight per se..
why everyone so mean to poor miss J , have I missed sumin? huh Smak, ur avatar sure made my morning..
hippo, you always give good
advice, and i find your posts
very informative.
BTW..I think she was suspended
for a while, something to do with
pics..or something.Some are childish.
Last edited by SS1476; 03-14-2006 at 07:26 AM.
bump
I wold ahve to agree and I am not kidding!!!!Originally Posted by Hackamaniac
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..this might as well go to
the lounge no need for it here...
Originally Posted by SS1476
Originally Posted by Jayhova
Glad we think alike...........
I hear ya hova,guess it was
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