4th Cycle Help PLZ. Tren or No Tren?

[kingbrew]

hey bros, just wanted to get you opinions on this 4th cycle I'm planning. First stats, 6'1'', 210lbs, 8% BF, 24 yrs old, bin training since 16. I'm trying to plan out a cutter for summer, but I wouldn't mind gaining a few more pounds durring the cycle either (who wouldnt?). I was originally planning this:

week 1-12 Test prop 100mg ED
week 1-12 EQ 600mg a week, shot twice EW
week 6-12 Masteron 75mg ED

But then I started thinking about using some tren ace. Would it be a bad idea for a 4th cycle? It sounds mighty tempting. If I did the Tren, should I run Mast with it, or is there no point since they are both very androgenic? Here is the tren cycle

week 1-12 Test prop 100mg ED
week 1-12 EQ 500mg a week
week 6-12 Tren A 50-75 mg ED, (i'll see how the sides are before/if I bump up from 50mg)
week 6-12 Mast 50-75mg ED (should I even bother with the Mast if I'm using Tren)

Of course I have proper pct and 10mg nolv throughout letro and arim on hand, but I usually dont get any bloat, never had gyno signs either. So which cycle do you guys think I should run?? And, any suggestions on things I should change? Thanks guys

[C_Bino]

Add Tren if you want, no big deal either way. But run your test longer than the EQ for certain. I would run the Prop to week 14. Looks good tho to me.

-Bino

[HUNTER1]

i agree the test needs to be run 2 weeks longer, go till week 14. also, i'd add tren if it were my cycle. i love the stuff

[muscle_20]

on tren and prop now and i love it!i would add it if i were you.

[Folsom Cellmate]

hey bros, just wanted to get you opinions on this 4th cycle I'm planning. First stats, 6'1'', 210lbs, 8% BF, 24 yrs old, bin training since 16. I'm trying to plan out a cutter for summer, but I wouldn't mind gaining a few more pounds durring the cycle either (who wouldnt?). I was originally planning this:

week 1-12 Test prop 100mg ED
week 1-12 EQ 600mg a week, shot twice EW
week 6-12 Masteron 75mg ED

But then I started thinking about using some tren ace. Would it be a bad idea for a 4th cycle? It sounds mighty tempting. If I did the Tren, should I run Mast with it, or is there no point since they are both very androgenic? Here is the tren cycle

week 1-12 Test prop 100mg ED
week 1-12 EQ 500mg a week
week 6-12 Tren A 50-75 mg ED, (i'll see how the sides are before/if I bump up from 50mg)
week 6-12 Mast 50-75mg ED (should I even bother with the Mast if I'm using Tren)

Of course I have proper pct and 10mg nolv throughout letro and arim on hand, but I usually dont get any bloat, never had gyno signs either. So which cycle do you guys think I should run?? And, any suggestions on things I should change? Thanks guys

It just depends if your prepared to take it (full knowledge of side effects) or not, atleast you'd be taking the acetate which you can discontinue and the sides will subside rather quickly...also you could save the Mast for another cycle...you could also bring the EQ down to 400 as I dont think it will make much of a difference, and you could use what you take out (100 mgs a week) to frontload your first week cycle as EQ takes awhile to kick in...finally if your not concerned with being human pincushion id say go for it...

goodluck bro

[Folsom Cellmate]

You can add the tren and prop in the same injection, that would definately make the shots alot easier on you...

[kingbrew]

It just depends if your prepared to take it (full knowledge of side effects) or not, atleast you'd be taking the acetate which you can discontinue and the sides will subside rather quickly...also you could save the Mast for another cycle...you could also bring the EQ down to 400 as I dont think it will make much of a difference, and you could use what you take out (100 mgs a week) to frontload your first week cycle as EQ takes awhile to kick in...finally if your not concerned with being human pincushion id say go for it...

goodluck bro

so if I'm going to do the tren, save the mast for later? Sounds good, thats sorta what I was thinking. But about the EQ, I've ran a couple times a 400mg Ew and didn't see anything great, got a little veiny but thats about it. I've heard running it at 500-600mg does wonders. So maybe I'll bump it down to 500mg, but def not 400mg again.

For all you guys that have run tren, is 6 weeks about the longest it should be run? because of the toxicity?

appretiate the help bros

[topvega]

so if I'm going to do the tren, save the mast for later? Sounds good, thats sorta what I was thinking. But about the EQ, I've ran a couple times a 400mg Ew and didn't see anything great, got a little veiny but thats about it. I've heard running it at 500-600mg does wonders. So maybe I'll bump it down to 500mg, but def not 400mg again.

For all you guys that have run tren, is 6 weeks about the longest it should be run? because of the toxicity?

appretiate the help bros

I hope not cause I am coming up on week 9 of prop/tren-a.... and I don't see myself stopping for at least another 2 maybe 3 weeks..... Gains have been to good to stop....

My next cycle will probably be prop/eq/mast/winny.... and I am really thinking of throwing tren in there again.... I love the shit...

[muscle_20]

i am finishing up on 10 weeks of tren no probs that i can see(beside the sides) but blood work will show whats what!

[kingbrew]

hmm, I guess I was wrong about the length thing. I was just under the impression that one's kidney and liver values can greatly increase, aswell as cholestoral, when on tren. I heard it was much worse than test, deca etc... Anyways, thats good news you guys are running it longer, cuz I wanted to run it longer than 6 weeks . Have any of you guys bin getting blood work done while your on tren? If so, how were you values? I'm certainly going to get blood work done when on this cycle.