I want to give HGH/TRT to my dad whose a victim of stroke

[notanormalgent]

Hey guys, here's the deal...My dad isn't in very good shape, he's in his early seventies and he had a stroke about seven years ago. The right side of his body isn't fully functioning, his speech is a little slurred, but his mind is still sharp. He is overweight, has high blood pressure, and has diabetes as well. He needs a caretaker at all times to cook his meals and help him walk, as well.

At this point, I feel like he has nothing to lose by using HGH and/or testosterone. It can't do anything but help, right?

He's using state medical insurance, and I know they're very stingy with giving out these products because of their high costs. The way I see it, they're doing enough to keep him alive, which believe me, I thank them for doing that, but I feel that he can do even better.

I've brought it up with one of his doctors before, but he sort of looked at me as if I were joking and just said he needs "more exercise". I'm going to try again, and if they don't do it, would it be wrong for me to get the HGH myself and have him take it?

I'd appreciate all the input I can get as my father's health is extremely important to me.

[Slic4788]

Yeah man first of all, you're not going to get a right opinion over here since most people here have take GH from a bodybuilding perspective and have no clue what to do with the situation like yours.

That said, I'm kind of surprised that you want to jump your dad on the gh wheel here, it's not a miracle drug. If he's overweight, that probably doubles his risk of another stroke. I think he's right to say that he should hit the cardio.

Get him in shape first, then when he needs the extra boost, you can try minimal dose of GH. I think test is out of the question right now.

[notanormalgent]

The thing is that my dad can't do cardio. He can barely walk.

I know everyone here uses it for bodybuilding, but I'm just trying to get a reason of why he shouldn't use it? What has he got to lose?

[rodge]

whats your dads take on it? he does know right?

giving hgh to someone with seriues medical conditions without having the proper medical background can possible lead to something that you don't want. he could retain some mild sides like water retention that for him may be fatal and adding hgh to someone with diabetic would possible require adjustment of his bloodsugar level meds like slin or metformin. i understand that you want the best for him but fact is you can't self medicate on someone who allready is in a weak condition,its hard enough to keep sides within reason for us healthy persons. what if you proceed and things go seriues wrong, how do you live with that?

-rodge

[Butterfly23GrL]

Check your pm's...i sent you some info regarding treatment of stroke victims. Hope it's useful!

Hey guys, here's the deal...My dad isn't in very good shape, he's in his early seventies and he had a stroke about seven years ago. The right side of his body isn't fully functioning, his speech is a little slurred, but his mind is still sharp. He is overweight, has high blood pressure, and has diabetes as well. He needs a caretaker at all times to cook his meals and help him walk, as well.

At this point, I feel like he has nothing to lose by using HGH and/or testosterone. It can't do anything but help, right?

He's using state medical insurance, and I know they're very stingy with giving out these products because of their high costs. The way I see it, they're doing enough to keep him alive, which believe me, I thank them for doing that, but I feel that he can do even better.

I've brought it up with one of his doctors before, but he sort of looked at me as if I were joking and just said he needs "more exercise". I'm going to try again, and if they don't do it, would it be wrong for me to get the HGH myself and have him take it?

I'd appreciate all the input I can get as my father's health is extremely important to me.

[Ufa]

Before you do anything see your Cardio Doc. I am honest with mine. After all he saved your loved one's live once.

[Maldorf]

whats your dads take on it? he does know right?

giving hgh to someone with seriues medical conditions without having the proper medical background can possible lead to something that you don't want. he could retain some mild sides like water retention that for him may be fatal and adding hgh to someone with diabetic would possible require adjustment of his bloodsugar level meds like slin or metformin. i understand that you want the best for him but fact is you can't self medicate on someone who allready is in a weak condition,its hard enough to keep sides within reason for us healthy persons. what if you proceed and things go seriues wrong, how do you live with that?

-rodge

You are exactly right. Even for some perfectly healthy people there are going to be harsh side efffects from these substances. I know a guy that tried just 4 IU GH/day, 5on2off, and he had very serious bloodsugar problems. He told me he was so sick that he could barely get out of bed, he missed a month of work. Missing all that work came at a bad time too, he ended up having to declare bankruptcy. This guy was healthy and could bench over 500 lbs, just imagine what might happen to your frail father if thinks went wrong. For the guy I know the worst thing that happened was bankruptcy, for your dad the stakes could be a lot higher.

[notanormalgent]

Guys, thank you so much for the insight. HGH is definitely out of the question.

But what are the cons to say 250mg of test e a week? Can it mess with his blood pressure?

[toolman]

Guys, thank you so much for the insight. HGH is definitely out of the question.

But what are the cons to say 250mg of test e a week? Can it mess with his blood pressure?

absolutley it can mess with his BP, lipid profiles, many things. Do not give him anything, his cardiologist is far more qualified to determine what he needs than any internet strangers.

[Maldorf]

Guys, thank you so much for the insight. HGH is definitely out of the question.

But what are the cons to say 250mg of test e a week? Can it mess with his blood pressure?

Yes, higher blood pressure is a common side effect, especially if you dont take an antiestrogen with it. To me, the risks of using this far outweigh the benefits for him.

[notanormalgent]

To me, the risks of using this far outweigh the benefits for him.

Absolutely. Thanks for all your input, guys! I'm just trying to look for anyways possible to help my dad.

[Slic4788]

Well, tell us a bit more why he can't move? Injury or just discomfort or paralysis.

By the way, by cardio, I meant not heavy jogging but even a good walk, anything to get the blood flowing and using some of your muscle groups to make them sensitive to insulin. That is why for diabetics 2, exercise and diet is extremely important.

[notanormalgent]

He can't move from paralysis.