minimun amount of time on prop

[bor]

What would be the shortest amount of time to do a prop only cycle?

I would do 100mg EOD...

Not looking for big gains, just finishing off my cutting diet, looking for a few pounds, and to harden up a bit more....

I have 10 vials lying around so I would get some more..

4-6 weeks?

[C_Bino]

Ya since its such a short ester you can get away with using it for 4 weeks, thats why some people use it to kickstart a cycle for the first 4 weeks. However, I think you should do 1 of 2 things. Either inject ED (my opinion regardless) or if not at least extend it to 6 weeks. But i really think either way you should be injected ED with prop.

[01dragonslayer]

I believe that prop should be injected daily as well. I personally would run it no less than 8wks.

[Kappa Capo]

Eod is fine, not much diffrens if you ask me.
6weeks minimum.

[speedtraining]

ED is the way I go, 6 weeks would be ok, 8 would be beter.

[lucabratzi]

i would say 6 weeks...and ed...i liked it better ed, felt more stable...also 100mg eod is kinda on the low side..

[goalseeker]

I agree with almost all of you...
ED for sure.... and minimum 8 weeks...

[goalseeker]

i would say 6 weeks...and ed...i liked it better ed, felt more stable...also 100mg eod is kinda on the low side..

depending on cycle history and stats, of course.....

[scotttiger54]

if your gonna run a short little cycle then do it properly. i understand you just want a little kick, but set your goals on some decent gains. i would inj ed and def run it for atleast 8wks

[scotttiger54]

i don't know, i just feel that anything under 8wks just wouldn't do it complete justice even though within 4wks you'd see good results

[Montgomery]

check out a post called "for those who have read marcus' short cycles". It has some great info on running short cycles (ie 3 weeks max), and the benefits of that. Some guys can gain 5-10 lbs in a 3 weeker, and they don't shut down at all. They can then take a few short weeks off and do it again, and again, and again. I love the idea and my next cycle will be prop and var for 4 weeks. Most important thing to ensure fast gains in a short cycle is diet. Check out Marcus' theories on priming for a cycle with the proper diet and creating an environment in your body conducive for growth.

Montgomery

[D7M]

6 weeks min. I shoot prop eod.

[C_Bino]

Are you planning to run it alone? Plus guys he asked for a MINIMUM, I dont think 8 weeks is minimum, I mean that is sometimes a full cycle. Plus as I stated about people have great success using it as a kickstart for 4-5 weeks.

But yes I agree with the rest of you that if he is running just a prop cycle I wouldnt go less than 6 weeks...

[bor]

Ya since its such a short ester you can get away with using it for 4 weeks, thats why some people use it to kickstart a cycle for the first 4 weeks. However, I think you should do 1 of 2 things. Either inject ED (my opinion regardless) or if not at least extend it to 6 weeks. But i really think either way you should be injected ED with prop.

Cool, 6 weeks is doable...thanks

I always did it EOD and never had any problems with it, thats why I'm thinking of going that way...

I think 100 mg EOD for weeks is what I'll do then

[bor]

depending on cycle history and stats, of course.....

Yeah I agree, I ran it that way b4 and saw some really good results, although I went as high as 750 mg of test e per week, but I still saw better results with the prop, go figure

[bor]

thank you all for your input btw

[needledik]

my friend was the same... got better results with 100mg ed prop then he did with 800mg/wk enanthate.. he ran the prop 8wks and the test e 12 i believe.. but the results were even more noticeable on his prop then test e, and now prop kick starts all of his cycles.. some just react diff i guess

[marcus300]

Go with ED injection and running it for 4-6 weeks will be fine.

[bor]

Do you think 50mg ED and 100mg EOD would make that much of a diff?

[DwinsChamps]

bump

[Kappa Capo]

Do you think 50mg ED and 100mg EOD would make that much of a diff?

#ED AND EOD#
I did em both, and the results were exactly the same.
I had the same diet and i trained the same so i now.
The only diffrence was that i got spared from injection pains when i did propionate EOD.

[fhorst]

my friend was the same... got better results with 100mg ed prop then he did with 800mg/wk enanthate.. he ran the prop 8wks and the test e 12 i believe.. but the results were even more noticeable on his prop then test e, and now prop kick starts all of his cycles.. some just react diff i guess

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199851
Testosterone (no ester) = C19 H28 O2 = 288.4mg = 100mg
Propionate = C3 H4 O = 56.1mg = 83.72mg
Cypionate = C8 H4 O = 124.2mg = 69.90mg

Here, we’re comparing Testosterone with no ester (suspension) with Test Propionate and Cypionate (basically the longest vs. shortest esters available with testosterone).

So you see, the longer the ester on the testosterone is, the longer the steroid is active in your body, and the less actual test you get. This is because, for every 100mgs of testosterone cypionate you inject, only 69.90mgs of it is actually testosterone, the rest is the cypionate ester, which must be removed. On the other hand, with the propionate ester you’ll get 83.72mgs of Testosterone!

[goalseeker]

Do you think 50mg ED and 100mg EOD would make that much of a diff?

always better ED...Blood level wise... I love pins and shooting the gear, so I will always run ED.. But, some dont like it, so they will run EOD...As long as at least once they try both, so they can tell if it makes a difference for them or not....