How bad will Primo shut down the boys?

[Sharky72]

I'm trying to avoid my beloved Test because the sides are really f*cking me up.. Thinking 700 - 1000 mg wk of Primo for 8 wks? Dbol jump start maybe..
Just looking to harden up really, dont need more size. Suggestions?

[QuieTSToRM33]

Run test ..... and fine tune your diet/cardio/training for the lean look.

[Swifto]

I'm trying to avoid my beloved Test because the sides are really f*cking me up.. Thinking 700 - 1000 mg wk of Primo for 8 wks? Dbol jump start maybe..
Just looking to harden up really, dont need more size. Suggestions?

Please elaborate?

[Sharky72]

Hair loss. Hair growth/ Back,shoulders,a$$,ect. Shrinking testes. Water retention..... The question is does primo shut down your natty test production??

[1buffsob]

I don't see how a compound naturally found in your body, such as test, could be f_ucking you up so bad if it were taken at a reasonable dose. I'd include at least some prop eod for this kind of cycle because primo will shut you down.

[Silk22]

primo can shut down the nuts. how much are you taking of the test

[Swifto]

Hair loss. Hair growth/ Back,shoulders,a$$,ect. Shrinking testes. Water retention..... The question is does primo shut down your natty test production??

"Shrinking testes" can be treated with a little HCG.

"Water retention" can be combated with an AI.

Not all androgens totally inhibit the HPTA. Primo will only inhibit your natural testosterone production, not lead to total inhibition IMHO. This may change, though, with prolonged use, at massive doses.

[Sharky72]

I'm probably gonna run test again in the future, I really just want to take off for at least 6 monthes.. I'd like the primo to harden me up for the summer ( I live on the beach ) with women everwhere.. Its a tough life

[Swifto]

If avoiding Test, I'd go with:

wk 1-10 Primo 1000mg/wk
wk 1-6 Tbol 50mg/ED
wk 1-PCT 50mg+/ED

A low dose of Test may be required. However, I dont see any problems with labido as Tbol/Proviron will both work to increase it. A low dose of HCG throughout also wouldnt hurt.

[1buffsob]

"Shrinking testes" can be treated with a little HCG.

"Water retention" can be combated with an AI.

Not all androgens totally inhibit the HPTA. Primo will only inhibit your natural testosterone production, not lead to total inhibition IMHO. This may change, though, with prolonged use, at massive doses.

I consider 700-1000mg a week a very high dose of primo IMO, and 8 weeks of use on the low side. Either way, natural production is going to be shut down.

[Swifto]

I consider 700-1000mg a week a very high dose of primo IMO, and 8 weeks of use on the low side. Either way, natural production is going to be shut down.

Not shutdown, inhibited.

[1buffsob]

Correction

[Sharky72]

I don't see how a compound naturally found in your body, such as test, could be f_ucking you up so bad if it were taken at a reasonable dose. I'd include at least some prop eod for this kind of cycle because primo will shut you down.

Are you facking kidding me? Dude I'm not talking like I'm going into the ER or anything.. If you think that there can be no reprocussions from administering testosterone into your system, you are sadly mistaken..

Swifto, thanks for the opinion on the Primo, thats what i was thinking also.
I'll pm Goose for further info

[Swifto]

Correction

[Sharky72]

Lol...Hey buff just read my post, didnt mean to jump on your sh1t bro... I get moody with my low test levels while I'm not on. Haha

[1buffsob]

Are you facking kidding me? Dude I'm not talking like I'm going into the ER or anything.. If you think that there can be no reprocussions from administering testosterone into your system, you are sadly mistaken..

Swifto, thanks for the opinion on the Primo, thats what i was thinking also.
I'll pm Goose for further info

You said that you were experiencing hairloss on test. What do you think a dht-derivitive will do for your hairline?

All I'm saying, that personally, I'd run at least 100mg prop eod. You do what works best for you.

Best of luck.

1buffsob

[Sharky72]

If avoiding Test, I'd go with:

wk 1-10 Primo 1000mg/wk
wk 1-6 Tbol 50mg/ED
wk 1-PCT 50mg+/ED

A low dose of Test may be required. However, I dont see any problems with labido as Tbol/Proviron will both work to increase it. A low dose of HCG throughout also wouldnt hurt.

wk 1-PCT 50mg+/ED ?? Proviron Bro??

[1buffsob]

Lol...Hey buff just read my post, didnt mean to jump on your sh1t bro... I get moody with my low test levels while I'm not on. Haha

No problem. See, I told you that you need test.

[Sharky72]

You said that you were experiencing hairloss on test. What do you think a dht-derivitive will do for your hairline?

All I'm saying, that personally, I'd run at least 100mg prop eod. You do what works best for you.

Best of luck.

1buffsob

Your correct bro. The hair I could care less about, Vin look is already working out well for me.. The thing that is facking me up is my Prostate enlargement due to testosterone.. Cant piss when you need to and it screws with your joystick.

[Swifto]

wk 1-PCT 50mg+/ED ?? Proviron Bro??

From week 1, throughout, and during PCT at 50mg, possibly more.

[1buffsob]

Your correct bro. The hair I could care less about, Vin look is already working out well for me.. The thing that is facking me up is my Prostate enlargement due to testosterone.. Cant piss when you need to and it screws with your joystick.

The Vin look is awesome . Too bad about the joystick though.

[1buffsob]

From week 1, throughout, and during PCT at 50mg, possibly more.

Very good advice . May get a little pricey though.

[Silk22]

i was just thinking that this will be very pricey with mild results without a test.