Winny OIL BASE ANYGOOD ???????

[albert]

Has anybody ever used the winny oil based(no UGLs mentioned here).Seems pretty unique.Are their products any good?? They are deff cheap. Was wondering if it still need s to be shot ED seeing as it is oil base. Was thinking of stacking it with some Trenabol 150 at the end of my cycle. Any help would be appreciated.

[1buffsob]

That brand is shit. Stay away from it. Also, try to keep UGL's to PMs.

[badboy247]

stay away from esterified winny its prob fake and that brand is shit. winny is water based for many reasons, do your research my friend.

[trulbfan3]

never heard of an oil based winy. ide stay away from it if i were you

[GetHugeDieTrying]

oil based winny = crap fake shit

[IBdmfkr]

hahaha, have any of you guys even tried or had LEGIT oil-based winny. It is exactly the same as water-based but suspended in PEG+Oil. IMO it's actually better alternative if you're Lucky enough to find it. It doesn't clump up, it doesn't freeze in Pin as easily and it is less painful.
How do I know, because I've made both and they are exactly the same(besides the fact waterbased is micronized). So what were you saying again?

[albert]

Thanks for the imput IBDmfkr. Is that brand I mentioned above crap like these guys are saying or what?? Its the only one ive ever seen? Thanks

[IBdmfkr]

Haven't used that UGL, so I couldn't say. Also please edit your post and remove the name mentioned. Thanks

Hint (it should separate when left sitting for a period of time requiring you to shake it before use, it should look more clear on the top(oil) and almost foggy on the bottom(PEG+powder).) Hope this helps.

[RAM2500]

gethugedietrying & trulbfan3 do alitle research, just like IBdfkr said its suspended in PEG and oil. As a matter of fact alot of companys are swithing to oil based because it holds up better. Just because YOU never heard of it does not mean its fake.

[1buffsob]

There are good UGLs that make oil based winny. But, from what I understand, it used to be hard to find a legit oil based winstrol. I don't believe that's the case anymore.

[albert]

OK Thanks for the input. Sorry about
ugl but thought (A} was a name brand.The question remains do you still have to inject ed oreod Thanks

[TAlexa]

And with the oil based winstrol you obviously dont need as many injections as opposed to the water based product!!!

No you dont need to inject everyday- inject twice a week for nice plasmer levels!!!

[IBdmfkr]

Where do you get this info? Please explain.

[1buffsob]

And with the oil based winstrol you obviously dont need as many injections as opposed to the water based product!!!

[Swifto]

No you dont need to inject everyday- inject twice a week for nice plasmer levels!!!

Eleborate...

Cant beat the Zambons.

[albert]

Yea I dont think 2 times a weeks gonna cut it. There is know ester to it just oil.Im no expert thats why im on here.NOW CAN ONE OK YOU VETS OR MODS PLEASE SET US ALL STRAIT ON THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL.

Thanks


GROW BIG OR GO HOME!!!!!!!!

[1buffsob]

Best dosing comes from 50-100mg ed. If you're new to winny, 50mg ed is your best bet.

[TAlexa]

For all you who flammed me with a bad attitude, please dont just cause youve got more posts or have been around longer or have certain titles under your aveatar, dont mean you know everything !!!

[1buffsob]

Definately not true. What the drug is suspended in has nothing to do with its half life.

[TAlexa]

Ok heres somthing I took from another board- read and learn. Total half life is dependant on two things, evationtime (esterdependant roughly 1.5 days per carbon in the ester) wich is allways the same per ester and invasiontime ( the time needed for the body to metabolise the oily depot ). Like you can see the invasiontime is dependant on a few factors like the place where the oily depot is shot, the concentration of the oil (mg/ml AAS) the hydrophobicity of the oil ( basicly how much benzyl benzoate is used ) and the type of carrier ( oils - solvent - co-solvent ). I think in the case of HCL winny in oil, two times per week administration, will make a stable plasma concentration of stanozolol.

[IBdmfkr]

For all you who flammed me with a bad attitude, please dont just cause youve got more posts or have been around longer or have certain titles under your aveatar, dont mean you know everything !!!

You must be referring to me. Rather than being a bitch, put it out there and say my name when you refer to me.

Reread my post, there was absolutely no flame intended. I like to hear different opinions and when someone states what I believe to be false, I like to see an explanation backing it.

Btw, the oil/water is mearly a carrier for the hormone, it has nothing to do with how fast/slow it is absorbed by the body. There were studies posted, let me try and dig them up.

So according to your theory, Oil-based winny should be shot twice/wk correct? So you would suggest to someone to shoot 200-300mg twice/wk of winstrol that was going to use 75mg/day of Water-based?

[1buffsob]

You must be referring to me. Rather than being a bitch, put it out there and say my name when you refer to me.

Reread my post, there was absolutely no flame intended. I like to hear different opinions and when someone states what I believe to be false, I like to see an explanation backing it.

Btw, the oil/water is mearly a carrier for the hormone, it has nothing to do with how fast/slow it is absorbed by the body. There were studies posted, let me try and dig them up.

I believe he was referring to you, Swifto, and me. But you're absolutely right IBdmfkr, oil/water is just a carrier for the hormone, it doesn't change a drug's half life.

[TAlexa]

Yo i dident say you nor was i refering to u, if meant you i would have told u straight now dont worry about my post about oil, it was my bad sorry, just read my last post before this one and all you information regardind winstrol in oil should be there, and dont call me a bitch, if you have anything to say thats not about oil based winstrol then pm me!!!

[albert]

What the @#$%%$#@ People stop this nonsense. I asked a couple of simple questions on a product that I was gonna try and still have not gotten a strait answer.If someone can please read this original thread and give me some educated help I would really appreciate it.How are we supposed to learn if not. Thanks

[1buffsob]

Best dosing comes from 50-100mg ed. If you're new to winny, 50mg ed is your best bet.

Sometimes you just have to weed through the other conversations going on to find your answer. But whatever you do, don't buy from the UGL you posted.

1buffsob

[*Narkissos*]

Your hypothesis:

And with the oil based winstrol you obviously dont need as many injections as opposed to the water based product!!!

No you dont need to inject everyday- inject twice a week for nice plasmer levels!!!

Your explanation:

Lol with waterbased winny the half life was 48 hours now oil based winny is suspended in oil, and oil based products dissperse into the blood stream more gradualy then water based chemical/products, therefore the half life or oil based winny is alot longer then the water based winstrol-I can explain more if you wish?

For all you who flammed me with a bad attitude, please dont just cause youve got more posts or have been around longer or have certain titles under your aveatar, dont mean you know everything !!!

...You're wrong

[albert]

Thanks 1buffsob. Check your PM

T alexa can you straiten us all out with your professional oppinion on the whole subject. Thanks

[*Narkissos*]

Btw, the oil/water is mearly a carrier for the hormone, it has nothing to do with how fast/slow it is absorbed by the body. There were studies posted, let me try and dig them up.

It has very little effect as noted... active compound+solvent+lipid-based carrier= emulsion.

Think.. Fat soluble vitamins... similar concept.

So according to your theory, Oil-based winny should be shot twice/wk correct? So you would suggest to someone to shoot 200-300mg twice/wk of winstrol that was going to use 75mg/day of Water-based?

[doghunter]

like everyone else on here has said between oil and water there is no difference and i know because i make three types of winny oil, water , peg 400 based the only reason winny can be used in water is because its the lightest product so once shaken it will bond for a short period , oil based winny will never sepperate and if it dose then it was not prepared right i have 100cc bottles that have been sitting all week they do not need to be shaken they stay clear all the time and all the powder is bonded to the oil or peg base so imo its clear as the winny to see which is a better choice , oh yeah an the half of course is still the same the ester is still the same , because its still the same stanzolol the only way change that would be to change the ester to make it slower to shoot it eod or twice a week, but whats the point less shots less reults . have any of u guys ever shot winny in oil or peg 400

[DarKOmeN]

never heard of a oil based winny

[doghunter]

all people know is what they see pretty much, but it is out there and u will start seeing it more and more of it

[TAlexa]

I wrote the explanation above, but I'll refresh your memory. Total half life is dependant on two things, evationtime (esterdependant roughly 1.5 days per carbon in the ester) wich is allways the same per ester and invasiontime ( the time needed for the body to metabolise the oily depot ). Like you can see the invasiontime is dependant on a few factors like the place where the oily depot is shot, the concentration of the oil (mg/ml AAS) the hydrophobicity of the oil ( basicly how much benzyl benzoate is used ) and the type of carrier ( oils - solvent - co-solvent ). I think in the case of HCL winny in oil, two times per week administration, will make a stable plasma concentration of stanozolol.

[doghunter]

so then how would one find out the half life of a product if its based on all the things u say i do not think this is true at all active life has nothing to do with oil or water my friend when u pull up fact sheet of winny or test or tren when it gets down to the half life time it dosent say anything about " well it all depends on the base its in" do u know why because its the ester that tells the life span of the drug not the base once again i think your wrong , u read something on a board that u and some others may believe but that dosent make it correct. thats like saying if i could put test e in water now i would have to take it as if it had a prop ester . like i said this is not true oil to water will not change the ester or half life or full life span of the drug.

[albert]

Sound completly logical doghunter !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ANYONE ELSE This is a warning to newcomers here dont just take the first thing you read as word. As you can see the truth is here somewhere!!!!!!!!!!!???????????

[IBdmfkr]

Glad you stuck around and got the right info albert.

[doghunter]

thanks

[TAlexa]

You guys, are tuff to convince, read what i put it does make sense.........

..........so u think they put winny in oil just to relieve the pain of injecting winny in water..............lol

When you find out from someone else i was right then please remember this thread!!!

[IBdmfkr]

So what happens when you drink Oil-based winny. uh oh!

[TAlexa]

Yo.....its drinkable........but youd loose one third of the effects.......why would you ?......You can buy tabs !!!

[IBdmfkr]

Because I enjoy the taste and I have too much winny laying around.