PLZ HLP!!!! 20lbs

**garrettltyra** · 03-30-2006, 01:08 PM

ok, here goes, i need some help very quickly. i am 6'0" and 165 lbs. i workout daily. i take no-xplode, cell mass, and cytogainer. I need to buy a cycle of steroids that will put on 10 lbs to me in a bout 6 weeks. what should i stack, how much per week or day in detail, i eat right, i just need some fast acting bad ass cycle of roids, some1 plz help. in details too plz, THNX GUYS!!! i'm very cut up by the way, don't have hardly any body fat.

**ant_8u** · 03-30-2006, 01:15 PM

Why 6 weeks? what's the rush?

If your 165lbs you're not cut, you're skinny

You need to re-evaluate your diet - not use gear

**1buffsob** · 03-30-2006, 01:16 PM

You do not need steroids, you need a good diet. Go to the diet forumn, and get too it. 20lbs of muscle in 6 weeks is not realistic, even with all the steroids you could handle.

**Booz** · 03-30-2006, 01:16 PM

whoa slow down there fella.......................how old are you and how long have you been training for?

**garrettltyra** · 03-30-2006, 01:19 PM

i'm 21 and been trainin for bout 2 years, and trust me fellas, i eat right, about 3000 calories a day, i need a boost, my metabolism is out the roof. 150 grams of protein daily as well for about 4 months now, i'm jsut not goin anywhere, i din't mean to typ 20 either, i meant 10 lbs, i wanna be 175. i've tried it all for a while now, just give me a good stack please, thank you

**1buffsob** · 03-30-2006, 01:21 PM

150g of protein is pathetic unless you're a woman and cutting. You're not eating right. Post you're diet, and we'll see how good your diet really is.

**Booz** · 03-30-2006, 01:26 PM

post your diet in the correct forum mate not in here.....
imo 6' and 165.....you can put on at least 20-30lbs natty before you need gear mate...........................you need at least 300g protein....150 will just not cut it..............

**garrettltyra** · 03-30-2006, 01:28 PM

i drink 150g protein, that isnt including what i eat, that is just 3 protein drinks of cytogainer everyday

**1buffsob** · 03-30-2006, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by booz

post your diet in the correct forum mate not in here.....
imo 6' and 165.....you can put on at least 20-30lbs natty before you need gear mate...........................you need at least 300g protein....150 will just not cut it..............

I forgot to mention that. Thanks for the correction booz.

**garrettltyra** · 03-30-2006, 01:31 PM

if no1 can help with steroid info, taht's fine, but after all this is STEROID.COM. if i wanted advice on eating, trust me, i wouldn't be posting in here, i guess thanks anyways? i have all the advice on dieting i need.....

**macktownmac** · 03-30-2006, 01:34 PM

i think your rushing into this, make sure you do research. check out the bulking sticky in the diet section, all the diet info you need is in there.

**garrettltyra** · 03-30-2006, 01:37 PM

once again thanks for the dieting info. that's not what i need, i need steroid info. some1 just lock thread plz, clearly i'm talking to the wrong ppl about stacking..... i mean after all, what the hell are steroids for? bulking up and cutting up....... so if all ya'll can tell me is to eat more, than that defeats the whole purpose, i'm buying steroids regardless, and i just need info. on what a good bulking cycle would be

**1buffsob** · 03-30-2006, 01:40 PM

The forumn moderator, booz, just told you that you don't need gear to accomplish your goals. Everyone is willing to help, but it seems your going to do what you want regardless.

**macktownmac** · 03-30-2006, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by garrettltyra

if no1 can help with steroid info, taht's fine, but after all this is STEROID.COM. if i wanted advice on eating, trust me, i wouldn't be posting in here, i guess thanks anyways? i have all the advice on dieting i need.....

I would recommend you do test on cycle the first time you run anything, You will put on a few lbs, but you'll be relativly safe.

Theres no such thing as overnight sucess.. and if there is it doesnt last...

i would advise you do test only, with the right diet,... you'll get some real noticable results.

**garrettltyra** · 03-30-2006, 01:42 PM

it's all good, thank you all for your help, i'll consider all of it. looks like i'm still flyin blind

**garrettltyra** · 03-30-2006, 01:44 PM

thank you, i was thinkin enanthate, and maybe sustanon250 or decca. i've taken tren and decca b4 and really like the fact that decca bulked me up a bit. just still was unsure which were best

**ant_8u** · 03-30-2006, 01:47 PM

If it's not what you want to hear then we're sorry

We're looking after your best interests

You need to revise your diet - that's what puts on mass

Steroids can only work with what they're given

If you don't fuel your body you wont grow

**AllGearedUp** · 03-30-2006, 01:48 PM

Stick to test e only. Its the best 1st cycle for a beginner. 500mg a week for 10-12 weeks. Eat as many calories and grams of protein you can.

**1buffsob** · 03-30-2006, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by AllGearedUp

Stick to test e only. Its the best 1st cycle for a beginner. 500mg a week for 10-12 weeks. Eat as many calories and grams of protein you can.

That's the basic cycle of a newb, and will put on quality mass considering diet and training are in check

**ant_8u** · 03-30-2006, 01:50 PM

You are 21
You are uneducated
You weigh 165lbs
You don't diet properly
You use Deca & Tren

WTF?!

**1buffsob** · 03-30-2006, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by ant_8u

You are 21
You are uneducated
You weigh 165lbs
You don't diet properly
You use Deca & Tren

WTF?!

And dbol according to his other thread

**DBflash21** · 03-30-2006, 01:55 PM

Sounds like hes in high school if you ask me. Very poor spelling for a "21" year old.

**garrettltyra** · 03-30-2006, 02:05 PM

do not be stupid mate....the people on here are trying to help you....if you are only on here for 30 minutes of advice i suggest you get it from somewhere else....................

**ant_8u** · 03-30-2006, 02:11 PM

It's not us you're mad at

It's your father

**1buffsob** · 03-30-2006, 02:15 PM

Let this thread die. It only goes to show how steroids ARE dangerous in the hands of people such as this.

**restless1** · 03-30-2006, 02:17 PM

why do you not listen to people with experience........ive gotten alot of help from people who know their sh*t.............

**JR.SHRED** · 03-30-2006, 02:17 PM

well do you even know about pct, shut down of test or what works with what, you little punks ass cant come on here expecting us to do all your dirty work and eat you lazy ass because that is what you are you are an example of wanting the easy way out, do your homework and think about the things your saying

**Booz** · 03-30-2006, 02:25 PM

keep this civil please boys

**ascendant** · 03-30-2006, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by garrettltyra

once again thanks for the dieting info. that's not what i need, i need steroid info. some1 just lock thread plz, clearly i'm talking to the wrong ppl about stacking..... i mean after all, what the hell are steroids for? bulking up and cutting up....... so if all ya'll can tell me is to eat more, than that defeats the whole purpose, i'm buying steroids regardless, and i just need info. on what a good bulking cycle would be

you seem to be looking at gear in a very bad perspective. gear is not FOR bulking up and cutting up, they're to HELP bulk up or cut up. but if the foundation isn't there, it's not going to do much for you.

if you don't reach close to your genetic limits prior to taking gear, you're blowing money on something that you don't need (yet). at your stats, i can tell you without question that couldn't possibly be anywhere near your genetic limits. if you have a high metabolism, force feed! i started at 135lb. at about 14 yrs old, and between force-feeding myself, training hard, and plenty of rest, i gained about 40 lbs in 4 months, and that was well before i ever even thought about trying gear.

if you take gear now without a proper foundation (diet, training, etc.), the gear won't do nearly what it's capable of for you. i've seen guys take gear without knowing what they're doing and gain only 5lbs or so off a cycle, when i'd be on the same stuff they were and i'd gain 20lb. gear alone isn't the answer, that's what people are trying to tell you and you seem to just not want to hear it? take a look at the stats of some of these guys telling you this and maybe you'll understand most are coming from a much better standpoint than you right now. i wish you luck, but please open your mind to what people are saying to you, it's good advice.

**1buffsob** · 03-30-2006, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by ascendant

you seem to be looking at gear in a very bad perspective. gear is not FOR bulking up and cutting up, they're to HELP bulk up or cut up. but if the foundation isn't there, it's not going to do much for you.

if you don't reach close to your genetic limits prior to taking gear, you're blowing money on something that you don't need (yet). at your stats, i can tell you without question that couldn't possibly be anywhere near your genetic limits. if you have a high metabolism, force feed! i started at 135lb. at about 14 yrs old, and between force-feeding myself, training hard, and plenty of rest, i gained about 40 lbs in 4 months, and that was well before i ever even thought about trying gear.

if you take gear now without a proper foundation (diet, training, etc.), the gear won't do nearly what it's capable of for you. i've seen guys take gear without knowing what they're doing and gain only 5lbs or so off a cycle, when i'd be on the same stuff they were and i'd gain 20lb. gear alone isn't the answer, that's what people are trying to tell you and you seem to just not want to hear it? take a look at the stats of some of these guys telling you this and maybe you'll understand most are coming from a much better standpoint than you right now. i wish you luck, but please open your mind to what people are saying to you, it's good advice.

Very well worded.

I agree 100%

1buffsob

**PhiNally** · 03-30-2006, 02:57 PM

Get on a better diet,up the cals, more protein etc. You will put on weight because you are so skinny.

**doublefister** · 03-30-2006, 04:34 PM

3000 calories is not enough thats why you are 165. I consume 4-5000 calories a day. I too was 165 and once I started consuming 4-5000 calories a day I started seeing results.

Regardless if you are on gear or not you still need to be consuming these amount of calories. So start consuming now and see how much you can gain and then when you feel you have reach an ideal weight then you can go on gear and grow even more. Make the most of it as much as possible.

You are probably getting a decent amount of protein but not enough carbs. Thats what my problem was before. I never consumed much carbs. Once I started getting in around 3-400 grams of carbs a day I gained some good weight if you eat clean.

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