Thinkin about doing Winstrol Depot with Dianabol looking to run for 8weeks
50mg Winny Depot Eod
25mg Dbol Ed
Pct
1-4 100mg day
5-10 50mg day
Tell me what u think give any advice thanks
Thinkin about doing Winstrol Depot with Dianabol looking to run for 8weeks
50mg Winny Depot Eod
25mg Dbol Ed
Pct
1-4 100mg day
5-10 50mg day
Tell me what u think give any advice thanks
Winstrol depot should be taken ED, if you cant afford it buy orals.Originally Posted by Silikov
And what makes this a strenght cycle if i can ask?
A good strenght cycle always include tren and testo, orals only SUCK!
And yes bro, winstrol depot is an oral(c-17aa) its just in water.
I train for Power not size so the cycle will be for strength what gave u the most strength what were u taking and how was your cycle set up
whats your stats, cycle history, age, etc.
Listen bro, its all about diet during the use.Originally Posted by Silikov
If you dont want size great, dont eat for size.
Orals dont give good strenght gains, if you dont go freaken high.
Ive seen powerlifter doing 250mg/ed Dianabol and complain¨
So if you wanna get some good strenght do a testo+tren.
you need to have test in there. Also both of those components are 17-AA. its a no no to run either one of them for more than 4 weeks 5 is pushing it. and to run them both together is bad, both for 8 weeks is crazy if you enjoy having a working liver. do some research and learn what a real cycle is before you come on here, propose some garbage like that then get all offensive when people try to give you the help you asked for.
sides if you want strength you should be using dboll or droll with test and tren.
He can run orals for 6weeks if he wants,his liver wont be bad.Originally Posted by trulbfan3
I use 100mgs winstrol ED and i can go up to 8weeks or a bit more.
*I check my bloodwork*
i would put a test in there. just my 2 cents.
26yrs old 220lbs I have been training for 4yrs
Powerlifting
Im just looking for some help guys if i knew everything i wouldn't be on here.
Ok Test as a base i got that part, Is Test Prop really as painful as people say? I heard Winstrol Depot was painful too?
Ok for and oral in this cycle Anavar or Dbol which is best?
Ive never cycled before
Any info is greatly appreciated
Originally Posted by Silikov
Test only will give you great gains by itself. Why are you hellbent on adding others on your first cycle? 500mgs/week for 10 or 12 weeks whatever you feel more comfortable with.
Prop + winstrol need to be injected ALOT. Do you like needles? Then do prop, do you hate needles? Then do cypionate or enanthate.
You will defently get good strenght gains from that cycle. However I would switch the winstrol with anavar.Originally Posted by Silikov
D-bol/var would be a good combination as var binds to the AR-recepter and D-bol is effective at the non-AR meditaded mechanism, which provides good synergi. Var is also a very effective strenght drug as supossed for size gain, which fit your goals.
D-bol-25mgs ed
var-80mgs ed
Proviron-50 mgs ed(for libido, and possible bloat from the d-bol)
Why not do DROL if looking for strength and not concerned about size, for a jump start anyway?
...by the way, i'm new so take my question/sugg. with grain of salt. I know DROL can have nasty sides but I've heard the same of D-bol. I've heard of HUGE strength gains on DROL, sprinkle in some test and good PTC.
Alright here's the plan
1-10 Test Prop 100mg EoD
1-8 Anavar 60mg ED
1-10 Clomid or Novaldex 1 each day, which is better?
PCT
100mg Clomid 5days
50mg 10days
How does PCT look am i missing anything?
And which is better to run throughout the Cycle Novaldex or Clomid?
Thanks
anadrol works well for me good for strength waters quite a problem and liver toxicity aswell...DaRkOmEn
that is a very bad cycle. You should not be ruuing 2 17aa compounds at the same time. Also you need to run some kind of test.
Im planing to run
1-10 Test Prop 100mg EoD
1-8 Anavar 60mg ED
1-10 Novaldex 20mg ED
Post Cycle
Weeks 11-13 Clomid
300mg day 1
150mg day 2-10
100mg day 11-17
50mg day 18-21
Is this PCT good enough to get my Natural Test levels back to Normal after this cycle?
Is the Novladex need throughout the cycle with Prop?
Thanks
I personally run nolva through the cycle, but some don't have to but what it comes down to is do you really want to wait for sides before you start running nolva..I don't. I'd also run the Prop ED, and change the var from 1-8, 2-10Originally Posted by Silikov
Thanks Bro
So is it best to run Prop ED, is it not effective to Run it EoD?
What the scoop on Ed and EoD as far as the Test Prop goes?
what's the reason for runing Ed?, if ran ED how many Mg to take each day
So ok i will run the Var wks 2-10
and i will take Novladex ED throught the cycle.
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