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Anavar
Oral-Turinabol
Im hardcore, i only use tren
The are all overrated
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BOTH!
both are good var as a stand alone forsure
Originally Posted by Rocky IV
Tbol is a better stand alone than var IMO
More size. BUT both togeter are best.![]()
i know it give me more size too..but thats not really what i care about i like the shape anavar gives me better more athletic leaner look
Originally Posted by Rocky IV
If you got more muscle , shouldn't you have better shape then? Tbol has no bloat. How can alittle muscle make you look better than alittle more muscle?
How long did it take you to see var kick in full force?
When did you see fat loss from var?
When did you see strength gains?
Thanks.
Var and Tbol are great but the latter ain't that exp,sive, whereas Var is too much for me....both great products imo...![]()
Ive used both, and like both.
T-bol is better, though. Its a more effective muscle-builder per mg, without a doubt...
Originally Posted by vitor
Agreed....victor what do you think is the highest dose possible with Tbol?
sorry guys but i hate tbol, makes me feel rubbish and the stomach pains ehhh no thanks.
Originally Posted by marcus300
Did yours not go away after the first week?
Both! Both! Both!
but i did only use tbol so far with some test and i loved the tbol.. in the future it may be a tbol/var though..
Well, Ive done 60mgs ed. Tried to go 80, but had to bump it back down because some stomach-pains. 60 mgs ed was a pleasent dose for me, and quite effective.Originally Posted by goose4
No hellmask, they stay with me all the way, it just doesnt agree with me, everyone different, ive heard some good results can be obtained with it but ive tried it afew times and its not for me, to much discomfort.Originally Posted by Hellmask
Originally Posted by marcus300
Thats to bad. For me I felt the headaches, stomach pains , felt like sh*t for just about 2 weeks. With my second go with it, I don't have them anymore, I guess my body got used to it.
Anybody here ever do a tbol/var stack? goose have you tried this?
Pumps are getting very painful.
personally, ive never tried either, thought about taking t-bol because var is just too expensive
What results can you expect from a tbol only cycle? What portion of the gains you get are keepable?
Just hurt yourself on the foot/hand so you think about something else than your stomach painOriginally Posted by marcus300
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I'm lovin the T-bol!!--doing 50mg ED for 5 wks. On week 2, great pumps and strength gains, no bloat. No stomach issues, but have had frequent headaches (prone to migraines)--hoping they will resolve soon, as Hellmask has said. Haven't tried anavar--afraid of the appetite suppression.LOL.that's the last thing I need!
THIS IS MY FIRST CYC OF VAR...never done tbol...looking forward to it though...
liked anavar, but prefer tbol.
cant wait to run tbol late this summer, debating whether or not to run it w/ prop or just alone. prolly gonna end up running it w/ prop
how is tbol alone?
A little prop will do wonders, I am on a low dose prop(50mg ED) and tbol (60mg ED) cycle now. I think that I will take this one out until August.Originally Posted by LB 35
Originally Posted by tvd220
would love to know this as well.....what gains can be expected? what percentage will be retainable?
Originally Posted by JuicedUp1328
5-10lbs of muscle. If you gain more than this your probably very far from your natural genetic potential and should not have cycled. Far from being as good in gaining size as test, but very lean gains tbol gives. Won't make a very noticable change in your body if ran alone.
Has anyone ran a Tbol/ T3 cycle?
I agree with rockyIV on this tooOriginally Posted by Rocky IV
After taking Turanabol i would never go back to Var. It is much less $ too.
Originally Posted by derek7m
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Strength gains with var are horrible.
What week do they kick in?????
Tbol gives more strength than var does. It just takes 3 weeks to kick in
I didn't try Turinabol but I loved both Var and Tren. I got better results from Tren than Var but with more sides as well.
You betcha!Originally Posted by mick-g
I plan on doing a Tbol/ T3 cycle for cutting and was wondering if anyone has done this............might throw in some liquid Win too.
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