Cycle Virgin, please voice your opinion.

[GrowDamnGrow]

Hi Guys,

I'm thining of doing my first cycle. Have been training for years. I'm around 10% bf, 83Kg (182 pound), 6"2 (1.84).

I can only go first time for 8 weeks so I'm thinking a short ester test would be a great first cycle (with PCT of course).

I'm thinking either prop or suspension:

What would I expect to gain from such a cycle
of around 350mg - 400mg per week (shot ED or 2xED).

Is that a decent first cycle? any other short ester that I might use?

Thanks so much

[keith hackney]

yeah its a good one. depending on how many weeks u run and whether ur ED or EOD, it may wind up being a lot of shots. but it is not a bad way to break ur cherry. u might not keep the gains as well as you would with cyp or enanth tho.

[GrowDamnGrow]

I'm thinking of going for 8 weeks, and I respond really bad or I can't handle it, it's an easy to stop cycle as the body will clean itself quickly.

I'm not afraid of the shots and I understand if I mix it with oil or B12 it would be ok, and wouldn't hurt that much.

If I PCT at the end I won't keep most of it?
Would I be able to gain 20pounds from such a cycle, how much would you guess I can expect to gain?
Is it better to use prop or susp?

[mkrulic]

prop would need eod injects at min, ed would be better. suspension would be 2 times per day min. I recommend a long chain ester like enanthate. that would be 2 shots a week which would be much easier for you on your first run

[New Juice]

In your situation I would suggest using Prop at 75mg/day...i am a fan of single ester test'....20 pounds is alot but it all depends on your diet and how discipled you are

[mkrulic]

In your situation I would suggest using Prop at 75mg/day...i am a fan of single ester test'....20 pounds is alot but it all depends on your diet and how discipled you are

why would you recommend prop to a newbe? enanthate is a single ester that only needs to be shot once a week.

[mamias20918756]

u might not keep the gains as well as you would with cyp or enanth tho.

Is that so? I thought you could keep most of your gains with short estered Test like prop...
Anyway Bro you should really consider using some long estered test like enathate for a firsto cycle, shooting ED is not the most easy thing for someone who's new to it.
I would go for a mass cycle for a first cycle with only test enathate 500 mg/week (Better split up twice a week), maybe frontload first 4 weeks with some dianabol 20-30 mg/ED or even throw in some deca at 200-400 mg/week, but for a first cycle u better use one compound with proper PCT and u should see good gains and since it's your first time juicing, make sure u run PCT as you should and you should keep most of your gains.
Good luck bro