Phera Plex or Test (Newbie to Steroids)

[bedavis]

Hey guys, I've been reading the forum for a while now and finally decided to make a user name and start talking to you all. You guys have been a great source for learning about steroids and how to use them relativly safely. I'm 20 years old, and have been lifting for 3-4 years naturally now (I'm 5'7 160 lbs) and am seriously considering doing my first cycle. I am most concerned about my health while on the cycle. I already bought Phera Plex since it was easy to obtain and really cheap, but I'm deff concerned about it messing up my liver. Would it be better for my health to take something like testosterone enanthate at @ 500mg/week for 10 weeks or take 20mg Phera Plex/day for 4 weeks?

With the Phera Plex I would use the following:

20mg/day Phera Plex for 4 weeks
AX Perfect Cycle Liver Protectant
PCT - Nolva 20mg, Clomid 100mg (weeks), Liver Protectant 4 weeks

With the Test I would use:

500mg/week 10 weeks
Liver Protectant - All days
Nolva 10mg/day weeks 1-12

PCT:
Week 13 - Nolva 40mg/day, Clomid 100mg/day
Week 14 - Nolva 30mg/day, Clomid 50mg/day
Week 15 - Nolva 20mg/day, Clomid 50mg/day

I just want to know what the safest cycle would be I geuss, and which would be most effective. I know the Phera Plex is obviously cheaper but I'm not sure if that would mess my body up too much or not since its a methylated oral. Thanks for your help guys.

[Milky87]

Go with the phera-plex first. You should see some gains from that.

Then, if you want, you can use test later. No need for a liver protectant though

[pelly789]

for phera plex you definatly need a liver protectant

[impackt22]

Yeah run the PP first....you dont want to turn to the dark side just yet!!!

[Venum]

i should be getting my bottle of PP today in the mail...I am excited..I have done the basic beginner stack of test enanthate and deca, but I didnt get that great of results..Hopefully PP helps

[novastepp]

Don't use either, you hardly have any base built up to run anything yet. i'm sure you are going to anyway, so PLEASE read up about phera-plex, post a diet, find a serious workout routine and stay safe, your body will thank you.

[BlueAndromeda73]

You could gain much more naturally by lifting hard and having a proper diet stay away from that stuff you dont need it you will be happier you did in the future if you decide to run a cycle you be much better off

[Milky87]

for phera plex you definatly need a liver protectant

Notice how I mentioned it (not needing one) after talking about test? Guess what was implied


EDIT: sorry, didnt mean to go overboard. Being a bit strung out recently

[Natty99]

I'm going to do PP for my First Cycle as well. I don't truly want to take the turn to the Darkside. Very needle phobic. Definately try to stay natural a bit longer...... lift heavy..........eat a ton.....sleep like a baby

[EcToMoRpHiAn]

Just to throw this out there, I am 20 and have used Superdrol and 1-AD gaining good results with both. I did proper PCT after both but now a year later can't get it up. Going to the doctor soon, but I feel like starting using both of those so soon is why I am experiencing the problems I am. Just some food for thought...

[mwolffey]

I'm going to do PP for my First Cycle as well. I don't truly want to take the turn to the Darkside. Very needle phobic. Definately try to stay natural a bit longer...... lift heavy..........eat a ton.....sleep like a baby

What the hell do you think PP is...a f'n creatine??? ....its a damn prohormone, and yes you need to run at least milk thistle..it is the darkside, IMO... and a very poor choice for a first cycle...if you are not ready for needles..then you are not ready for AAS

[Anabolios]

What the hell do you think PP is...a f'n creatine??? ....its a damn prohormone, and yes you need to run at least milk thistle..it is the darkside, IMO... and a very poor choice for a first cycle...if you are not ready for needles..then you are not ready for AAS

i dont think phera plex is considered a prohormone i think its an actual steroid not picked up by the fda yet

[Milky87]

It is an actual steroid. Well, so are prohormones, but PP doesnt require metabolising to be active

[mwolffey]

Prohormone...steroid..whatever. He and other people are treating it like a supplement, i dont wanna see the guy end up regreting it like many of my friends have with PP and Superdrol...its a bad choice for a first cycle...imo..it goes back to if you are not ready to inject than you are not ready for AAS.

[bedavis]

Hey guys I've been pretty busy latley so I just got a chance to look at the board just now. I know that phera plex is a steroid, I geuss thats why I was considering doing test instead b/c it is prob safer since it doesnt it may not take as big of a toll on my liver. If I do decide to take the phera plex I would start it in about a month. I would take 20mg/day for 4 weeks along with a liver protectant. For PCT I would take 20mg nolvadex/day for 4 weeks and 100mg clomid/day for 2 weeks. I have been considering this a lot and havnt started taking anything quite yet....

[Anabolios]

ever consider halodrol? if you can get your hands on it its good stuff its not all gone yet there is plenttyyy out there just dont go paying 100-150 for a box of it

[bedavis]

yeah I've considered it but I heard the side effects are pretty bad with that stuff

[cfiler]

Try PP first.

[Thekidtmac]

I've done a cycle of SD with great results put on 10lbs of muscle and had little side effects got my bloodwork done, all was good. I just started a four week cycle of PP this week I will let you know how it goes.

[Natty99]

Go with the phera-plex first. You should see some gains from that.

Then, if you want, you can use test later. No need for a liver protectant though

WTF? Please read the "don't give bad advice thread" Milky

[StateChamp]

Natty have you started your pp cycle yet? just wondering since it was your first cycle and it will be mine as well. anyways...good luck to ya!!!

[Natty99]

Natty have you started your pp cycle yet? just wondering since it was your first cycle and it will be mine as well. anyways...good luck to ya!!!

Not yet......I'm kinda waiting for a little while. I've had everything ready for two weeks now. I think I'm gonna wait till I'm done cutting at the end of june I gotta get my BF down to around 15%. I'm prolly around 20% now

[Testostack]

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WTF? Please read the "don't give bad advice thread" Milky

No liver protection w/ PP???

Then go to your surgeon and schedule a liver transplant for PCT.............

[EcToMoRpHiAn]

Why are we bumping threads that havent been posted on in over a month?

[Anabolios]

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WTF? Please read the "don't give bad advice thread" Milky

he is milky from the extreme case of gyno he has

[Testostack]

Why are we bumping threads that havent been posted on in over a month?

Good Question afterall........