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im going to do a 10 week cycle of test-e,with t-bol and winny,wonderin if i should run the t-bol 60mg a day for the first 6 weeks and the winny 50 mg aday for the last 6 weeks, having two weeks in the mid on both. Or 5 weeks (the first 5) on tbol and 5 weeks (the last 5) on winny.
im jst about sorted but cant decide what to do so any help off you guys will be well appreciated, P.S any other variations that have worked for you guys also welcomed.
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i would run 6 week's t-bol 6 week's winny
but make sure you get your blood's checked before and after cycle
also i would advise against any drink during your cycle
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To get good results from winny you have to use high doses,if you want to include Tbol,you don`t have the space for this.I would just hit Tbol hard for 8 weeks at 70mg.
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cheers stocky,that was what i was thinking of,wont be drinking much prob have 1-2 bottles on sat night with the girlfriend, al also be taken liv 52, milk thistle,plenty of water.
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Originally Posted by goose4
how high do you mean by high mate ??
just i've ran winny at the end of my cycle 50mg ed for 6 week's and i have to say i really liked it.
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Cheers goose but ave got them now so im going to take them did winny only cycle a few years back, dont class it as cycle as i didnt know enough, got some good results on 50mg aday. but i could prob up the t-Bol to 70mg aswell.
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Well with winny I dont get injection pain and never have problem`s with my joints,this means I can take advantage of this.Winny is a pure muscle builder,it`s a class drug,very Sophisticated in it`s structure.To truly benefit from this I think doses of 100mg and up is when you notice the magic.
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i have to say that i never got any pain from winny except that one time i done my bi. Or any joint problems.
and the next time i take it i'll be trying 100mg ed split into two shot's ED.
but i think 50mg ed is a decent dose and IMO he will see a lot from it.
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Agreed mate
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Um ... THEORETICALLY ... the idea is to give your liver a break - so, 6 weeks TBol, then 4 weeks off with some cleansing shit... and then Winny again. However, if you want to use Winny primarily because it's a DHT derived for hardening... well, use the injectable. That way you don't have to concern yourself with your liver. Otherwise, put a break in their... Secondly, winny maybe you substitute for Masteron, apparently it's many poeples preference who simply decide between DHT drungs for the purposes of hardening that DHT's offer.
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so then goose do you agree with stocky, 6 weeks of both aposed to 5 weeks of both?
Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference
cheers mate but already bought so no going back, i posted my exact cycle up afew weeks ago b 4 buying and the response i got was that it would be ok to go so i did,cheers for the imput and im going to be prpared for the worst so hopefully i will be good.if i didnt have to inject everyday i prob would use the injec dont want to do everyday,2/3 days enough for me.
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I only do 10 weeks of orals and that`s Depending what they are,remember winny depot is 17aa.Tbol is very mild on the liver but winny is quite toxic,the truth is it`s all a little over-rated.You have people who do androl at 200mg for 10 weeks and the blood results come clean.Only you can decide what to do.
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totally agree with this get blood work done it's the only way to tell
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Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference
So 10 weeks long enough, i would not go over that any way. thanks for your info. i might start a diary in the cycle forum, giving all pros and cons. cheers again.
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I have ran the exact same cycle although i needed to cut it short.. you will love it.. i didnt even complete the full 12 weeks I intended but still had very good gains.. im real pissed i couldnt finish.. gained 23 lbs and some very good strength gains though.. and i ran the winny but dropped it a week in a half into it.. didnt like it at all but it may have been a prob with something else.. oh yea i ATE and ATE the whole day.. good luck
Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference
how did you run it? could you giv a brief example.
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