is cypionate and winny for 8 weeks enough?
tomorrow i will start my cycle i will be shooting eod.
any help is appreciated.
is cypionate and winny for 8 weeks enough?
tomorrow i will start my cycle i will be shooting eod.
any help is appreciated.
Whats your cycle history and why have you decided to run it for only 8 weeks?
your still unsure of your cycle, but yet you sound adamant to start it tomorrow.. read up a bit.. seems like you have some research to do bro.. and no its not to short.. you could extend it but thats your choice..
12 weeks with cyp would be best? what is your cycle history/training experience/stats?
stat's cycle history ?
cyp need's to be run longer IMO
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I dont think it NEEDS to be run longer.. could be for optimal results but you can def get away with 8..
Originally Posted by Liftnainez
He said it was his opinion and I agree.
i am gona running this cycle along with my cutting diet and cardio.
stats and cycle history:
no cycle history,4years of training, 23 years old 185cms,90kgs,12%bf(4upper abs visible) i also feel like having a bit of water retention in my lower abdomen wich i cant get rid off:S
am gona run it for 8 weeks coz thats what i ve been told in they gym if i need to run it longer i can.
any ideas are welcomed thx. and i can postpoint the cycle i am not in a hurry.
run the cyp longer, 8 or 12 weeks. and i think 8 weeks of winny is too long.
4 packs are visible but they are a bit fluffly dunno why:S
Last edited by Elias; 04-10-2006 at 07:05 AM. Reason: thought my early post didnt show
i already said i am gonna run the cyp for 8 weeks:SOriginally Posted by keith hackney
so the winny will be for 6 is that good?
my fault, i meant 10 or 12. i ran enanth for 10 weeks and the last 2 weeks i felt were really important. i wish i had ran it 2 or even 4 more weeks.
yeah winny for 6 weeks is more like it.
If you wanted to run an 8 weeker, I would either add a small daily dose of Prop, or run prop only at a higher dose. cyp takes a while to kick in. I'm on week 7 and it's just now starting to work well.
i forgot to mention that i have also anavar. if i want to add it to the cycle how can i add it? and do u think that 6 weeks of var is enough cause i thought of adding it when i start to use winny.
No way.Originally Posted by Elias
One or the other in my opinion.
Or you could lengthen your cycle to 12 weks and run Var for the first 6 weeks and Winny for the last half.
Last edited by MAXIMA5; 04-10-2006 at 10:00 AM.
I would run the cyp for 10-12weeks, and cut the winstrol back to 5 weeks.
i have been told that i cant shoot cyp and winny in the same slin cause one i water and the other oil its not good,is that true?
the trainer is saying that i should shoot like this:
monday:winny,wednesday:cypionate(600),friday:winny and so on:S
is that true??
Originally Posted by Elias
8wks of cyp not enough. Go with 12wks.....................
wk 1-12 Test Cyp 500mg/wk
wk 10-14 Winstrol 50mg/ED
Last edited by mr. snakes; 04-11-2006 at 06:16 PM.
winny should be shot 50mg ed and cyp should be shot e3d for optimal blood levels. i think it should look like
1-12 cyp e3d 250mg im thinking 500mg test a week would be fine first cycle
6-12 winny ed 50mg
WHATS UR PCT LOOK LIKE???
oh yeah, var and winny are both 17aa's. Var is mild but still mixing var with winny isn't the best for your liver. hopefully a vet will completely clear this up for you
i think u mean 1-10cyp cause i will have to start pct after 2weeks of my last shot of Test and 24h after my last shot of winny. right??Originally Posted by paintball4ever85
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PCT:regular pct clomid and nolva. i dunno if my ball will shrink with that cycle.
i will be taking nolva and proviron ed throughout the cycle.
NO, He, and everyone else meant 1-12. I hoestly don't know why you asked for advice. You seem to brush off every piece of advice given.Originally Posted by Elias
You seem unprepared to say the least.
You mentioned mixing winny and cyp in a slin pin. I'm sure you just got your terms mixed up, but I think you should know the difference between a IM pin and a slin pin before you start a cycle.
Now run the cyp for 12 weeks, and run the winny for the last 6. This is the only way to run the two compounds you chose. If you wanted to run an 8 weeker, you should be using prop as your base test.
Also, cycle comes first, pct comes second. You can't refuse to change your cycle because you already set your pct.
i don't know how correct this is......but i agree w/ the general idea you'v laid out max. good adviceOriginally Posted by MAXIMA5
i didnt mean to brush off every piece of advice givenOriginally Posted by MAXIMA5
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so if i want an 8 weeker u think propionate will be the best?
If you have your heart set on the cyp, at least add a little prop every day.Originally Posted by Elias
I think you'll have more success this way, or if you switch to prop completely.
I'm running cyp myself, and I'm on week 7. I'm just now starting to swell up, sweat alot, etc..(signs it is kicking in).
Do you really want to quit your cycle a week after you start feeling it?
then what do u think is best? i switch to propionate completely?Originally Posted by MAXIMA5
if so can i use it for 8 weeks or 10?
i am looking for the shortest cycle cause i am a newbie and want to cut.
Marcus may have a suggestion for a short cycle.
Last edited by MAXIMA5; 04-11-2006 at 09:00 AM.
You called..Originally Posted by MAXIMA5
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If you want to run a short cycle and its just a standard cycle and not a heavy dosages one, then id go with faster acting compounds which compliment each other, with short cycles there is only a short period of time to make the muscle gains you require, so time is very important you need to get the stuff in and working straight away, also with any kind of short cycle priming the body beforehand will give you a spring board to make huge muscle tissue gains.
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