Boxing And Steroids?

[Alex B.]

Hi,
new here,any way im a boxer and i need up gain some muscle mass,i was wondering is there any way that i can use steroids to get a jump start?
i dont wana use it for long,but after ill stop will the muscles i gained go away?
thanks.

[energizer bunny]

I box aswell and i posted the sme question, ANAVAR seems to be the best for boxers and mmas, go to the search button and type in roids for boxing,you should find my old thread, hope it helps mate.

[spencer]

What is the benefit of steroid use?

Steroids cut down on the recovery time necessary between workouts. You can train harder and expect greater muscle gains because of your increased intensity. In boxing however, cellular growth is not the primary objective. Boxers must increase strength while staying within the confines of their weight class. The boxer must train to increase ligament and tendon strength while initiating a response from a maximum number of motor units. The boxer can thus gain speed, power and explosiveness.

John continued to say that steroids would make a fighter more susceptible to knockout. Steroids cause an increase in blood flow and blood pressure, while reducing the body’s ability to clot blood. This equates to a fighter that is less able to go the distance and more vulnerable to knockout. John added that a problem with many trainers is their failure to understand the true science of conditioning. Each athlete is unique, thus requires a unique conditioning and nutritional program. Many trainers wish to help their athletes, but their actions often come back to hurt them. This may have been the case with someone from Fernando’s camp.

[soo2bhuge]

What is the benefit of steroid use?

Steroids cut down on the recovery time necessary between workouts. You can train harder and expect greater muscle gains because of your increased intensity. In boxing however, cellular growth is not the primary objective. Boxers must increase strength while staying within the confines of their weight class. The boxer must train to increase ligament and tendon strength while initiating a response from a maximum number of motor units. The boxer can thus gain speed, power and explosiveness.

John continued to say that steroids would make a fighter more susceptible to knockout. Steroids cause an increase in blood flow and blood pressure, while reducing the body’s ability to clot blood. This equates to a fighter that is less able to go the distance and more vulnerable to knockout. John added that a problem with many trainers is their failure to understand the true science of conditioning. Each athlete is unique, thus requires a unique conditioning and nutritional program. Many trainers wish to help their athletes, but their actions often come back to hurt them. This may have been the case with someone from Fernando’s camp.

nice post! even for guys in mma, this is pretty educational.

[energizer bunny]

yeh good post mate,

[spencer]

i got it off rossboxing.com

its great for reading and watching ross do them w/o's but the forums r shite. no personality atall

[taiotosh7]

most fighters that I know go with halotestin if using.....no real increase in mass but your strength, agression, speed, body hardness will go through the roof depending on usage and dosage......otherwise I would go with oral turnabol.....listen to what spencer had to say though, very true

[spencer]

most fighters that I know go with halotestin if using.....no real increase in mass but your strength, agression, speed, body hardness will go through the roof depending on usage and dosage......otherwise I would go with oral turnabol.....listen to what spencer had to say though, very true

i heard it off my mate taz (royal marine taz, on ar) the other week. he said he read it on rossboxing and there was an argument on ar lounge the other day about it

[GreenLantern12]

i got it off rossboxing.com

its great for reading and watching ross do them w/o's but the forums r shite. no personality atall

Ha Ha your on Rossboxing too. I haven't been there in awhile but it's a decent site.

[spencer]

Ha Ha your on Rossboxing too. I haven't been there in awhile but it's a decent site.

yeah man. its a top site but the forums r shite. i started a thread about steroids and ko's, i got treated like a cvnt. they thought it was a wind up, ross actually deleted it and said we dnt need this shite here.wtf i read it on his site

[soo2bhuge]

most fighters that I know go with halotestin if using.....no real increase in mass but your strength, agression, speed, body hardness will go through the roof depending on usage and dosage......otherwise I would go with oral turnabol.....listen to what spencer had to say though, very true

i hear halo is pretty harsh on the body. it's good for powerlifters but i don't know if it would be good for a boxer. i would definitely consider t-bol. i've done t-bol on its own and got some really nice results.

[Alex B.]

most fighters that I know go with halotestin if using.....no real increase in mass but your strength, agression, speed, body hardness will go through the roof depending on usage and dosage......otherwise I would go with oral turnabol.....listen to what spencer had to say though, very true

That sounds good,can it increase my stamina?
thanks for the comment spencer,im willing to take the chance to get knocked out,i can take punches reall good.
but when ill be in the shape that i want and stop using the halotestin will ill be the same as i was before i used them?
thanks for the comments guys,great forum

what does t-bol do?
and results did you got?

[GreenLantern12]

yeah man. its a top site but the forums r shite. i started a thread about steroids and ko's, i got treated like a cvnt. they thought it was a wind up, ross actually deleted it and said we dnt need this shite here.wtf i read it on his site

YEah that's great Ross deleted it, don't think I saw it. If I did I proby flamed you lol jk But it's cool cuz you always have 14-15 year olds posting on there how can I win this fight or I beat up this other kid how was 2 years older than I was can I be a boxer and I don't even think those get deleted

But I did get a couple of his books not bad stuff

[taiotosh7]

i hear halo is pretty harsh on the body. it's good for powerlifters but i don't know if it would be good for a boxer. i would definitely consider t-bol. i've done t-bol on its own and got some really nice results.

it all depends on dosage.....bodybuilders and powerlifters will use 40-60 mgs per day to get stronger or harder, at this rate only 4 wks is recomended due to the toxic value but some go longer......a boxer would use this drug at a much lower dosage at 10 maybe 15 or 20mgs only on the days of intense training, not a continuous cycle

[energizer bunny]

i got it off rossboxing.com

its great for reading and watching ross do them w/o's but the forums r shite. no personality atall

got alot of good info off that site me sel. he seems to know what hes on about.

[GQ-Bouncer]

Anavar would probably help

[spencer]

YEah that's great Ross deleted it, don't think I saw it. If I did I proby flamed you lol jk But it's cool cuz you always have 14-15 year olds posting on there how can I win this fight or I beat up this other kid how was 2 years older than I was can I be a boxer and I don't even think those get deleted

But I did get a couple of his books not bad stuff

lol.
tell u what mate they are good books, taz got two off him.but everything in the books r on the website rnt they

[spencer]

heres the second thread i started, i started it with the post i posted on here..

http://p101.ezboard.com/frossboxingf...cID=1267.topic

[spencer]

That sounds good,can it increase my stamina?
thanks for the comment spencer,im willing to take the chance to get knocked out,i can take punches reall good.
but when ill be in the shape that i want and stop using the halotestin will ill be the same as i was before i used them?
thanks for the comments guys,great forum

what does t-bol do?
and results did you got?

i think its only after a few yr of steroid abuse mate so not to worry

[Alex B.]

thx,if i use halotestin how will it effect me?
basickly i need,power,speed,body hardness,and stamina,the stamina is for running,i dont need a lot of muscle mass.

[Billy_Bathgate]

why dont you put the time and training in and do it the right way like everyone else?

if anthing, i think you would benefit from them way on down the road when you start to level off...if your anywhere new though, seems liek a waste to me..not like they are going to make you tough or tons more endurance...just recovery but so what, most people can handle that ok unless your trying to train what like over 6hrs a day..which i doubt

[taiotosh7]

thx,if i use halotestin how will it effect me?
basickly i need,power,speed,body hardness,and stamina,the stamina is for running,i dont need a lot of muscle mass.

Halo will give you all of that, it is a HARDCORE androgen. Athletes use this drug to get massive strength, power and speed without the build up of mass to stay within a certain weight class or simply to avoid immobility and slowness due to such a bulk...When I say it's a hardcore androgen do not take that lightly, it has one of the highest androgen rates of aas. A lot of people will say that people on halo are not fun to be around, in fact some only use it to up their agression

[Alex B.]

why dont you put the time and training in and do it the right way like everyone else?

if anthing, i think you would benefit from them way on down the road when you start to level off...if your anywhere new though, seems liek a waste to me..not like they are going to make you tough or tons more endurance...just recovery but so what, most people can handle that ok unless your trying to train what like over 6hrs a day..which i doubt

i was doing it the right way for a long time,but i have my ressaons.


DO NOT ASK WHERE YOU CAN PURCHASE STEROIDS. IT'S AGAINST BOARD RULES.

-USFIGHTERFC-

[spencer]

thx,if i use halotestin how will it effect me?
basickly i need,power,speed,body hardness,and stamina,the stamina is for running,i dont need a lot of muscle mass.

how long u been boxing, u shouldnt really need aas if training properly?

[Alex B.]

im training properly,i just have me reasons.
one is that i just recoverd from an injury and i need to get a jump start.

[spencer]

im training properly,i just have me reasons.
one is that i just recoverd from an injury and i need to get a jump start.

you shouldnt use steroids as a "kick start" really but im sure a few others will comment on it pal

[Alex B.]

and why is that mate?

[AnabolicBoy1981]

it all depends on dosage.....bodybuilders and powerlifters will use 40-60 mgs per day to get stronger or harder, at this rate only 4 wks is recomended due to the toxic value but some go longer......a boxer would use this drug at a much lower dosage at 10 maybe 15 or 20mgs only on the days of intense training, not a continuous cycle

no offense but that has to be the stupidest thing i have ever heard. if he only used it on intense days his blood levels would be so irregular that he wouldnt end up with any real results. And why not a continuos cycle? you mean to say stretch out an irregulary administered low dose cycle, keep yourself shut down for a longer period of time(becuase yes even 10-15 mgs EOD will shut you down) and get less results? Real smart.

I used to shootfight and many of my training partners juiced, and i ran a cycle myself. Persoanly i didn't care to be a medium sized guy fighting medium sized guys, i wanted to be a big guy fighting big guys, so when i used, i used test. Now the way us guys did it is about a 2 weeks after a fight(where we would have a 2-4 months before another fight) we would bulk up. most guys did cycles in the 6-10 week range. our cycles had to be a little shorter so we could have time to stabalize our weight and recover after our cycle. Most guysw ould use the same compunds a bodybuilder uses. Don't tell me Tyson never used test. I really doubt he gained his greatest thickness using compounds like anavar. But it all comes down to whether or not you wanna be the size you are and fight guys your fighting now, or be a big boy and fight big boys. I opted to be bigger. Depends what you want for yourself.
If your just looking for a training boost, i personally dont think steroids should be used that way. i don't think its wrong, i just dont think its effective and worthwhile, cuz you have to cycle it to some extent. even if you only did 10-20mgs EOD you would still have to PCT and come off for several weeks to recover your Htpa. Some steroids so increase RBC count substantially which would be a good thing for a fighter. actually they all do but some more than others. One semi-legal compound called Superdrol increases rbc so much that guys get painful pumps while on it. Training while on that stuff may give you increaed endurance. I am not sure if some of the new blood is kept after cessation of such a cycle but it may be possible so long as your training is consistent. this compound wont blow you up with water either so more than likely you might only have to move up one wight class after, maybe not even. Youll probly lose weight the first few days on it. Since guys are sayin use anavar, i would say screw anavar. it weak compared to superdrol and MUCH more expensive and harder to obtain.
And haloteston might be even greater for aggression that both of those, but if you like your hairline i wouldnt use it, not to mention the gains are not worth the sides from what ive read. Maybe taking some Halotestin right before a fight would be good though. Do they test you? If your amature they wont i dont think. I had a traiing partner that popped a few d-bols the day of a fight for agrresion. He also did the same thing with oral winny.

[Billy_Bathgate]

using steroids to get back from an injury is very bad, you will overexert (but it wont feel like it) and youve probally just trippled your chance of hurting ..whatever it is again

im just curious, ive been doing MMA for like..2 yrs maybe or so, and im still not at the point where i think..man i need some juice for da boost...and i get my ass kicked (both metaphorically and litterally) every time still..it be nice, but its too rewarding for me right now to cheat myself..maybe if i was doing it to make money it would be different

[Alex B.]

no offense but that has to be the stupidest thing i have ever heard. if he only used it on intense days his blood levels would be so irregular that he wouldnt end up with any real results. And why not a continuos cycle? you mean to say stretch out an irregulary administered low dose cycle, keep yourself shut down for a longer period of time(becuase yes even 10-15 mgs EOD will shut you down) and get less results? Real smart.

I used to shootfight and many of my training partners juiced, and i ran a cycle myself. Persoanly i didn't care to be a medium sized guy fighting medium sized guys, i wanted to be a big guy fighting big guys, so when i used, i used test. Now the way us guys did it is about a 2 weeks after a fight(where we would have a 2-4 months before another fight) we would bulk up. most guys did cycles in the 6-10 week range. our cycles had to be a little shorter so we could have time to stabalize our weight and recover after our cycle. Most guysw ould use the same compunds a bodybuilder uses. Don't tell me Tyson never used test. I really doubt he gained his greatest thickness using compounds like anavar. But it all comes down to whether or not you wanna be the size you are and fight guys your fighting now, or be a big boy and fight big boys. I opted to be bigger. Depends what you want for yourself.
If your just looking for a training boost, i personally dont think steroids should be used that way. i don't think its wrong, i just dont think its effective and worthwhile, cuz you have to cycle it to some extent. even if you only did 10-20mgs EOD you would still have to PCT and come off for several weeks to recover your Htpa. Some steroids so increase RBC count substantially which would be a good thing for a fighter. actually they all do but some more than others. One semi-legal compound called Superdrol increases rbc so much that guys get painful pumps while on it. Training while on that stuff may give you increaed endurance. I am not sure if some of the new blood is kept after cessation of such a cycle but it may be possible so long as your training is consistent. this compound wont blow you up with water either so more than likely you might only have to move up one wight class after, maybe not even. Youll probly lose weight the first few days on it. Since guys are sayin use anavar, i would say screw anavar. it weak compared to superdrol and MUCH more expensive and harder to obtain.
And haloteston might be even greater for aggression that both of those, but if you like your hairline i wouldnt use it, not to mention the gains are not worth the sides from what ive read. Maybe taking some Halotestin right before a fight would be good though. Do they test you? If your amature they wont i dont think. I had a traiing partner that popped a few d-bols the day of a fight for agrresion. He also did the same thing with oral winny.

Hi,thanks for the great comment,so what stuff do you think id should use in a cycle?
And after the cycle?
im willing to cycle it.
what do i need to do after the cycle?
im new to all of this and if im gona do it i wana at lest do it right
and yeh i love my hair line,and some times i get tested on some fights,mostly not.

using steroids to get back from an injury is very bad, you will overexert (but it wont feel like it) and youve probally just trippled your chance of hurting ..whatever it is again

im just curious, ive been doing MMA for like..2 yrs maybe or so, and im still not at the point where i think..man i need some juice for da boost...and i get my ass kicked (both metaphorically and litterally) every time still..it be nice, but its too rewarding for me right now to cheat myself..maybe if i was doing it to make money it would be different

why do you think its cheating?
its some boost,and im boxing a lot more then 2 year ever since i was litle,and i need the boost,just for some time.
and i do some money believe me the money that i do isnt even worth it,you can make it in like a week of work.

[taiotosh7]

no offense but that has to be the stupidest thing i have ever heard. if he only used it on intense days his blood levels would be so irregular that he wouldnt end up with any real results. And why not a continuos cycle? you mean to say stretch out an irregulary administered low dose cycle, keep yourself shut down for a longer period of time(becuase yes even 10-15 mgs EOD will shut you down) and get less results? Real smart.

I used to shootfight and many of my training partners juiced, and i ran a cycle myself. Persoanly i didn't care to be a medium sized guy fighting medium sized guys, i wanted to be a big guy fighting big guys, so when i used, i used test. Now the way us guys did it is about a 2 weeks after a fight(where we would have a 2-4 months before another fight) we would bulk up. most guys did cycles in the 6-10 week range. our cycles had to be a little shorter so we could have time to stabalize our weight and recover after our cycle. Most guysw ould use the same compunds a bodybuilder uses. Don't tell me Tyson never used test. I really doubt he gained his greatest thickness using compounds like anavar. But it all comes down to whether or not you wanna be the size you are and fight guys your fighting now, or be a big boy and fight big boys. I opted to be bigger. Depends what you want for yourself.
If your just looking for a training boost, i personally dont think steroids should be used that way. i don't think its wrong, i just dont think its effective and worthwhile, cuz you have to cycle it to some extent. even if you only did 10-20mgs EOD you would still have to PCT and come off for several weeks to recover your Htpa. Some steroids so increase RBC count substantially which would be a good thing for a fighter. actually they all do but some more than others. One semi-legal compound called Superdrol increases rbc so much that guys get painful pumps while on it. Training while on that stuff may give you increaed endurance. I am not sure if some of the new blood is kept after cessation of such a cycle but it may be possible so long as your training is consistent. this compound wont blow you up with water either so more than likely you might only have to move up one wight class after, maybe not even. Youll probly lose weight the first few days on it. Since guys are sayin use anavar, i would say screw anavar. it weak compared to superdrol and MUCH more expensive and harder to obtain.
And haloteston might be even greater for aggression that both of those, but if you like your hairline i wouldnt use it, not to mention the gains are not worth the sides from what ive read. Maybe taking some Halotestin right before a fight would be good though. Do they test you? If your amature they wont i dont think. I had a traiing partner that popped a few d-bols the day of a fight for agrresion. He also did the same thing with oral winny.

Sorry maybe I should have clarified that you can use halo in different ways. IMO it would be best to cycle 3-4 weeks before your competition.....otherwise YES you can use halo as a preworkout boost....just as you said maybe before a fight, or on intense training days. Some have a regular training schedule that might incorporate a hardcore day once or twice a week, and at this level he's not gonna be training year round so his usage would be limited to a short period just as halo is intended....pct of course! hcg through out and nolva after use is done. This method is popular around my parts and have shown great effectiveness

Have you ever even used Halo? Or are you basing this only on what you've read?

[radar1234]

Hi,
new here,any way im a boxer and i need up gain some muscle mass,i was wondering is there any way that i can use steroids to get a jump start?
i dont wana use it for long,but after ill stop will the muscles i gained go away?
thanks.

i am also a boxer(canadian amateur boxing asossiation)and have never heard of a boxer wanting too put on muscle mass,let alone with AS. boxing is all about speed and technique. most of the time a boxer will want to cut weight rather than put it on.

[Alex B.]

i know..
mass takes the speed,but as i said i have my resoans,if i would like to cut weight i can do it,but i need a kickstart as i said.

btw i have some friends in teh candian amateur boxing asossiation,been in canda a few time nice place

[Billy_Bathgate]

i mean, cheating on a personal level...

im new, and if i hopped on to move up fast, i would feal like i cheated myself short and missed out on alot of hardcore discipline because i took an easeir route, i think in the end i would have been better off not to...thats what i meant

[Alex B.]

i mean, cheating on a personal level...

im new, and if i hopped on to move up fast, i would feal like i cheated myself short and missed out on alot of hardcore discipline because i took an easeir route, i think in the end i would have been better off not to...thats what i meant

man youll get over it,i know i did.
why is it not cheating when bodbuilders take them,and when a boxer takes them its cheating?
dude have you ever taken steroids?

[Billy_Bathgate]

ya, like...oh near 4 or 5 years ago...did no MMA then, just bodybuilding/getting big stuff..and it for sure worked great..i was 267 at 5'7" at my heaviest ever..which actually i wasnt on anything then..but thats besdies the point

and your right, i do feel the same about bodybuilding too, never said i didnt

again like i said, im not talking about some rule..im talking about on a personal level to yourself...but thats a point too, i mean if you fight and the rules says no sauce and you do...well obviously that is cheating

[Alex B.]

i meant when a bodybuilder takes them its also cheating on the personal levl,forget the rules even if they said that you can use juice its still cheating on the personal level,i agree,but it bothres some ppl last then others/

[AnabolicBoy1981]

using steroids to get back from an injury is very bad, you will overexert (but it wont feel like it) and youve probally just trippled your chance of hurting ..whatever it is again

im just curious, ive been doing MMA for like..2 yrs maybe or so, and im still not at the point where i think..man i need some juice for da boost...and i get my ass kicked (both metaphorically and litterally) every time still..it be nice, but its too rewarding for me right now to cheat myself..maybe if i was doing it to make money it would be different

No thats not true. Unless you wanna spend a YEAR or more trying to rehab your injuries and keep getting your career interupted by your injuries, then steroids are an essentail part of getting back in the game. You think colman tore his ACL and then was leg pressing 800lbs 3 months after natural? Nope! And randlemen after his? NOPE. And belfort after id bicep severage? Absolutly not. Sorry bro, using roids when recovering is the only way to not take forever to get back in the game after MAJOR injuries. You will not overexert yourself or reinjure your self sooner because of it. If anything it lessons reaccurances. Your not gonna be growing like a weed on the stuf that you use to rehab yourself. Were moslty talkin about deca and EQ here at therapeutic dosages. Stuff that rebuilds joints. Iv see it work on 2 of my training partners. If they didnt use the stuff they would have not been able to do crap for over a year as far as intense training.

[Alex B.]

thanks AnabolicBoy1981,i see you have a lot of experience in the area,what do you think will be the best steroid to use in my case?
in need endurance,strength,stamina,and body hardness,and speed,besides halotestin,any better drugs?
i need all the effect i can get,and how can i cycle it right and do the right PCT after it?
thanks alot

[Billy_Bathgate]

No thats not true. Unless you wanna spend a YEAR or more trying to rehab your injuries and keep getting your career interupted by your injuries, then steroids are an essentail part of getting back in the game. You think colman tore his ACL and then was leg pressing 800lbs 3 months after natural? Nope! And randlemen after his? NOPE. And belfort after id bicep severage? Absolutly not. Sorry bro, using roids when recovering is the only way to not take forever to get back in the game after MAJOR injuries. You will not overexert yourself or reinjure your self sooner because of it. If anything it lessons reaccurances. Your not gonna be growing like a weed on the stuf that you use to rehab yourself. Were moslty talkin about deca and EQ here at therapeutic dosages. Stuff that rebuilds joints. Iv see it work on 2 of my training partners. If they didnt use the stuff they would have not been able to do crap for over a year as far as intense training.

lol uh huh...ive been in doing this shit for over 8yrs, ive seen it happen over and over. you get some dumbass that gets hurt and then hops on something and hurts it again..go ahead, its a dumb idea. i guess you dont know the difference between corisol and anabolic though? cortisol steroids are OFTEN used in injury, rarely anabolic..and this is coming from the real world medical view, not what some dude at the gym did