T4 doses + clen?

[G-Force]

ok so i am using T4 for the first time

now i have heard that you can take up to 400mcg in one day
but i heard somewhere else that you shouldnt exceed 100mcg

also my tabs are 50ug each

is 1 ug equal to 1mcg

also is it better to take this with clen or ECA

by the way i'm also using prop and drol

[marcus300]

what else are you taking with it? any gear?

[G-Force]

yeah

100mg Prop ED
100mg Anadrol ED

4 weeks cutter at the end of my 12 week bulk which i have just finished

[2.minutes]

where is marcus300 ??

[marcus300]

I normally take a small dose of t4 and stack up on the clen, Ive been having really excellent results from my clen at the moment, Ive been doing 2 wks on 2 wks off , Ive been fluctuating the dose daily, one day low then high dose then back down low dose, the results are amazing, personaly ive never needed to really go high on t4/t3 cause i find it burns muscle tissue so i keep it low and increase clen and keep my diet spot on.

[G-Force]

could the same benefit be achieved from ephedrine instead of clen

or is there some sort of synergy with the clen and t4?

[goose]

marcus what doses of t3 do you use during the 2 weeks?

[marcus300]

marcus what doses of t3 do you use during the 2 weeks?

i normally take t4 not t3, i dont exceed 200mcg anymore.

[G-Force]

is there synergy with clen and t4 together
or can ECA be used jsut as effectively?

[marcus300]

is there synergy with clen and t4 together
or can ECA be used jsut as effectively?

i prefer t4 and clen, eca makes me lose my appetite and thats no good do not use it anymore.

[G-Force]

yeah thats why i like ECA

plus the drol
otherwise i'm too hungry when cutting

thanks marcus

[marcus300]

yeah thats why i like ECA

plus the drol
otherwise i'm too hungry when cutting

thanks marcus

Don't be scared of hunger, food is the key to building muscle and maintaining it, self control and eat clean & cycle your carbs, food is to powerfull to leave out.

[G-Force]

Don't be scared of hunger, food is the key to building muscle and maintaining it, self control and eat clean & cycle your carbs, food is to powerfull to leave out.

i'm still eating 3200 Kcal

i'm 93.5 Kg at the mo (down from 96kg)

i'm thinking these kcals good be a bit too low actually?
seeing as i was bulking on 5000kcal

[goose]

So what dose`s have you decided to run T4 and clen?

[Xprime]

Marcus300 can i know what makes you prefer T-4 to T-3?
if u like to eat while cutting why don t u use clen with ketotifen i ve read that it keeps hungry, and there is no cycling method because it keeps receptors clean.


To answer G-Force i think T-4 and Eca is what u need because u do not want to eat much while cutting.

[G-Force]

who me?
i'm not running clen

at the mo i'm just using 50ug T4 and taking 1 - 2 ECA's a day
the guy i got it off said to stick with just 50ug a day

what do u reckon?
surely i can go as high as 100ug
50 seems pretty low

[goose]

My mistake,I thought you was clen too,LOL.I agree with you 50 is pretty low,I have only used T3,so marcus will give the best advise here.

[Xtralarg]

I have ran t4 upto 300mcg per day with excellent results, stacked with clen its an awsome combo.

[G-Force]

I have ran t4 upto 300mcg per day with excellent results, stacked with clen its an awsome combo.

why does everyone say clen and not ECA

i still dont know if there is synergy involved with stacking clen and T4
that you dont get with ECA

you know what i mean by synergy right........?

eg the clen making the T4 work better or vice versa

[marcus300]

why does everyone say clen and not ECA

i still dont know if there is synergy involved with stacking clen and T4
that you dont get with ECA

you know what i mean by synergy right........?

eg the clen making the T4 work better or vice versa

The way to find out is try it both ways, many people get different results, its ok what it may say on paper but try it for yourself, you have enough answers to your question

[G-Force]

well does it say on paper there is synergy
that is all i'm asking

and everyone has ducked and dodged the question

[Xtralarg]

The way to find out is try it both ways, many people get different results, its ok what it may say on paper but try it for yourself, you have enough answers to your question

Golden words!

As far as ECA goes I dont like it,appetite supressents are BAD for BB's, you have to eat,even when cutting, even more so some say(clen obviously),after all you dont want to loose all that hard earnd muscle!

[Xtralarg]

well does it say on paper there is synergy
that is all i'm asking

and everyone has ducked and dodged the question

No synergy between t4 and clen.If the is I have never heard of it,they do work extremely well together tho so who knows....Try it for yourself.

[marcus300]

well does it say on paper there is synergy
that is all i'm asking

and everyone has ducked and dodged the question

it works better for me to use clen and t4 and not t4 and eca, i will say again try both ways to see what works best for you, does it really matter what it may or not say on paper you have enough views to make your mind up.

Try both ways than you will know.

[G-Force]

Golden words!

As far as ECA goes I dont like it,appetite supressents are BAD for BB's, you have to eat,even when cutting, even more so some say(clen obviously),after all you dont want to loose all that hard earnd muscle!

ECA gives me just the amount of appetite supression i need
i still eat 3500 Kcal and i am STILL hungry even with the anadrol/ECA

i think i must just have a big appetite

anyway ECA is anti-catabolic just like clen so that wouldnt lead to much muscle loss IMO

[Xprime]

Marcus300, i asked u something a bit above that would be nice to check.