First cycle - dbol, sus, deca

[IslandDreamz]

what up people... just started my first cycle:
wk 1-2 deca 250mg wk
wk 1-4 dbol 30mg day
wk 1-8 sus 250mg wk
wk 3-8 proviron 250mg wk

pct clomid and novidex

reason im running so short ont he deca is because thats all my source had.

STATS age 30 197lbs @ 18%bf

got me diet down and my routine.. wish me luck ....

[Kale]

cycle sucks. First cycle should be Test only, save all the other stuff for future cycles. This is all you need

wk 1-12 Sust 500mg/Week break shots to be done EOD

Two weeks of Deca wouldnt do anything anyway, dbol is run way to long. If you do it all and you get sides you wont know whats causing it hence the reason for one anabolic on the first cycle

[IslandDreamz]

made an edit to the dbol.. it was a type was 4 weeks.. sorry about that.. i know the deca is short.. but my source messed up... i was told before to start on 250mg of sus first.

[Grappler13]

cycle sucks. First cycle should be Test only, save all the other stuff for future cycles. This is all you need

wk 1-12 Sust 500mg/Week break shots to be done EOD

Two weeks of Deca wouldnt do anything anyway, dbol is run way to long. If you do it all and you get sides you wont know whats causing it hence the reason for one anabolic on the first cycle

Keep your first simple so you can guage your body's reaction to individual compounds. Deca should be run 12 weeks and test should well exceed deca in such a stack so sump the deca. Bump the test up to 500mg/wk (get a single estered test if possible) and run that for ten weeks to see how it works for you, go twelve if everything is cool and you're still gaining. If you must run the dbol out for four weeks but drink tons of water and take something for your liver.

[biglouie250]

the deca serves no purpose in this cycle.....2 weeks???

[marcus300]

Cycle is rubbish, poorly planned out, research alot more on first cycles.

[IslandDreamz]

Keep your first simple so you can guage your body's reaction to individual compounds. Deca should be run 12 weeks and test should well exceed deca in such a stack so sump the deca. Bump the test up to 500mg/wk (get a single estered test if possible) and run that for ten weeks to see how it works for you, go twelve if everything is cool and you're still gaining. If you must run the dbol out for four weeks but drink tons of water and take something for your liver.

thanks dude good advide.. my source is all outod sus.. so i'll have ot just do the 250mg for now, while i was told was not bad for a first cycle.. thatks for you input and i'll let u know how it goes/

[MartyMcFly]

how tall r u?

[IslandDreamz]

5'11"

[scerpico22]

what up people... just started my first cycle:
wk 1-2 deca 250mg wk
wk 1-4 dbol 30mg day
wk 1-8 sus 250mg wk
wk 3-8 proviron 250mg wk

pct clomid and novidex

reason im running so short ont he deca is because thats all my source had.

STATS age 30 197lbs @ 18%bf

got me diet down and my routine.. wish me luck ....

listen to the guys on this site - they know thier sh*t...dont blow it off. you cycle is way, way off of what you should be doing.

a single test for cycle #1 - thats it - the more you take now and in the manner you are taking it will only make it more difficult for you down the road.

[mds]

Wait to you can get the right stuff, which should be test by itself, then start your cycle.

[IslandDreamz]

ok. so im off and running on my first cycle... week 1 and no real differance as yet.. except my pumps seem more intense.. i'll keep you posted

[EcToMoRpHiAn]

hahaha, Love the blatant disregard for the advice people are giving you. Hopefully everything works out for you, but I will be surprised if you accomplish what you want at only 250mg/week of sust.

[IslandDreamz]

hahaha, Love the blatant disregard for the advice people are giving you. Hopefully everything works out for you, but I will be surprised if you accomplish what you want at only 250mg/week of sust.

dude.. thats not the case.. im on this cycle from the advice on this .. http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=228041 it's like everyone on this forum is an expert.. and advice goes in many directions

[biglouie250]

dude.. thats not the case.. im on this cycle from the advice on this .. http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=228041 it's like everyone on this forum is an expert.. and advice goes in many directions

everyone in that thread told you not to do it as well lol!! if you werent going to listen then why bother posting in the first place.....



"week one no real difference yet" -bwahahahahahahahhahaha its the first week bro!!!! my guess is you will put on about 15-20 lbs that will come all off duing PCT.

[IslandDreamz]

nice.. flamers... did you read the WHOLE post... n e way.. i'll cont the cycle and post results as it goes.. id appreciate useful comments only.. not useless flaming

[biglouie250]

if you got flamed its because you deserved to be flamed. people are here to help you, if you dont want to take advice from people that have been down that road dont.....its your choice. i hope you have a happy, safe and healthy cycle. i think your missing out thou by not doing a 10-12 week straight test e cycle.

[IslandDreamz]

thanks.. suck it easy!

[1buffsob]

I'm sure this is gonna turn out exactly like you want. 18%bf,worthless cylce, and the disregard of advice from the experienced members of this board........... Oh yeah, looking real good

In all seriousness, anything you gain during these next 8 weeks will have nothing to do with aas. I'm thinking you're one of those guys who picks up their dieting and training because they're on gear, slacking off when they're not on. Complete waste, as you'll probably lose more than you gain just coming off.

But as a christian, I wish you nothing but the best.

1buffsob

[IslandDreamz]

I'm sure this is gonna turn out exactly like you want. 18%bf,worthless cylce, and the disregard of advice from the experienced members of this board........... Oh yeah, looking real good

In all seriousness, anything you gain during these next 8 weeks will have nothing to do with aas. I'm thinking you're one of those guys who picks up their dieting and training because they're on gear, slacking off when they're not on. Complete waste, as you'll probably lose more than you gain just coming off.

But as a christian, I wish you nothing but the best.

1buffsob

IT's funny how i get 2 different sets of advice from the same forum and because i choose one over the other.. ppl jump on me.. dude.. u dont know me so how can you tell me how ths is going to turn out? or how i train and diet?
You thook some shots and now you a pro? im not here to argue or hate on ppl.. i got 2 sets of advice and ppl just hitting me up now.. ive decided to take the geear and bust my ass.. so take a chill pill and read your bible.. ONE!

[1buffsob]

Where was this second set of advice The link you provided had 10 guys saying the same thing we're saying, and ONE 2 month old member who put together a cycle given the gear you provided. You only heard what you wanted to, not what was said.

That low of a dose (250mg sustanon) can provide 'some' results, but needs to be ran at least 10-12 weeks to give the long esters some time to work. The other shit is useless. 2 weeks of deca.

1buffsob

BTW, mocking my religion after I wish'd you the best, only goes to show your ignorance.

[IslandDreamz]

ok man.. i got yea.. thanks alot..
after doing a little reading and wanting to see how my body reacts to aas, i'll tryt the 250mg..
have a look at this.. http://www.mesomorphosis.com/steroid...stanon-250.htm

as for some of you that posted.. ease up on the drugs man.. you rage is showing thru your post...

you make a post and ppl just set to auto attack.. lmao

[EcToMoRpHiAn]

This thread is becoming full of worthless bickering, so I am through after this post...

I would highly recommend you listen to people who are giving you advice because we are trying to help you gain mass and understand steroids. There are no negative intentions in our posts or advice, just pointers to help you achieve what you want. The fact that this is becoming such an issue shows that you are not willing to take advice or even acknowledge that some people know more than you do. I wish you luck, but would urge you to research more before planning your next cycle.

[1buffsob]

That's old school thinking bro. Take a look at the compounds that make up sustanon 250.

testosterone propionate: 30 mg
testosterone phenylpropionate: 60 mg
testosterone isocaproate: 60mg
testosterone decanoate: 100 mg

You have a combination of short esters; propionate and phenylpropionate (extremely low doses and something that needs to be shot eod to keep blood levels at a steady level) and very long esters; isocaproate and decanoate.

You're not shooting enough quantities or often enough for the short esters to be effective. And you're not carrying out the cycle long enough for the longer esters to be effective; as isocaproate is closely related to enanthate where results commonly start around week 6, and decanoate is the longest acting ester found in sustanon that needs even longer cycling.

Basically, you're not running high enough to be effective within just 8 weeks, and you're not running it long enough for it to be effective at 250mgs per week. You shouldn't just rely on what some out of date article says without doing a little of your own research.

1buffsob

[IslandDreamz]

wow.. ok dude i got it.. thanks alot for your help.. i'll have to get somemore gear and kick it up.. to everyone thanks

[1buffsob]

Good luck bro.

1buffsob

[biggen]

That's old school thinking bro. Take a look at the compounds that make up sustanon 250.

testosterone propionate: 30 mg
testosterone phenylpropionate: 60 mg
testosterone isocaproate: 60mg
testosterone decanoate: 100 mg

You have a combination of short esters; propionate and phenylpropionate (extremely low doses and something that needs to be shot eod to keep blood levels at a steady level) and very long esters; isocaproate and decanoate.

You're not shooting enough quantities or often enough for the short esters to be effective. And you're not carrying out the cycle long enough for the longer esters to be effective; as isocaproate is closely related to enanthate where results commonly start around week 6, and decanoate is the longest acting ester found in sustanon that needs even longer cycling.

Basically, you're not running high enough to be effective within just 8 weeks, and you're not running it long enough for it to be effective at 250mgs per week. You shouldn't just rely on what some out of date article says without doing a little of your own research.

1buffsob

finaly somebody said it. i was sitting back scrolling to the bottom of the page laughing and looking to see if someone would post this info so i wouldnt have to. good post.

[thegodfather]

Did you let your source put this cycle together for you? It seems as if he basically sold you an assortment of shit he had laying around, and probably for a ridiculous amount of money. Anything worth doing is worth doing RIGHT, and this looks all wrong. In any case, the best of luck to you, and Im interested in your progress, so please post up when the strength and size gains start coming.

[1buffsob]

finaly somebody said it. i was sitting back scrolling to the bottom of the page laughing and looking to see if someone would post this info so i wouldnt have to. good post.

I try and help when I can. I wish I had found this board before I started, would of saved me a lot of headaches.

1buffsob

[tank2005]

prop is poinless in suss unless shoot ed or eod

[juiceboxxx]

Cycle is horrible.

Run test 500mgs/week for 12 weeks (for a 1st cycle) followed by proper pct.

but do some research 1st!!!

[farrebarre]

bro listen to me, i ran the exact same stuff in my first cycle and i still regret it, i wish i had listend to all the bros here, just stick with good ol test e for 12 weeks at 250mg-500mg/wk IMO.

oh and that cycle really SUCKS, if thats all ur source had u should just save it for another cycle down the road.

[*Narkissos*]

thanks.. suck it easy!

Good luck.. hope you get what you deserve.

[IslandDreamz]

Good luck.. hope you get what you deserve.

what you trying to get at nark?

what do you think i deserve?
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