What's a trust killer?

[Flagg]

I'm prolly looking for female points of views but guys feel free to chime in with an opinion.

Is a lie, any lie a trust killer? I mean, say the lie had nothing to do with cheating or deep deception, say the lie was just about your partner caught you bitching about her/him and you denied it but they knew you had. You know, panic reaction? Would you call that a trust killer?

[thegodfather]

it should be whatever you would FEEL is a trust killer...that means its your decision to determine that...asking people on this board you will get vastly different opinions because thats largely an individual point of view. So you should consider wether it feels betraying or not.

[lucabratzi]

if they lie about anything imo its a trust killer...my ex girl now that i still chill with will make the dumbest lies up..like when we were chillin one time she left after 20 mins to see one of her gf..i said that is gay as **** that u would have me pic u up just to drive u back so u can see her...then she said she made plans with her...def a lie cause why have me pick u up chill for 20 mins and drive u back if u knew u had plans in an hour...if they can lie about something small they can lie big...lier's are lier's just like cheater's are always cheater's...ect...

[Psychotron]

a lie is only a lie if the other party is privleged to that information.

[Flagg]

No real surprise that this is about me.

Yep, like most people im real big on honesty and I'd never lied to her before. I panicked a bit cause the person I had bitched to was another chick and my now ex has a real temper. I basically lied about the sex of the person. And yes, im aware of how "unmanly" it was to bitch in the first place but the events leading up to that were quite extreme. The point is she never got over that lie and I had never lied once to her in the past. She wont accept how sorry I was over that. Now, if I'd cheated I could understand her wanting to walk. Maybe it's just me but I think to have trust shattered over what I think is a white lie is a shame cause we're no more now and she was the woman I was planning on spending the rest of my life with.

[Carlos_E]

a lie is only a lie if the other party is privleged to that information.

Huh? Doesn't make you any less of a liar. The view that anything you don't know won't hurt you is bull. Eventually you find out, and it hurts.

[Flagg]

Carlos is right. Never EVER keep things back or cover things up, especially if it's about your partner...not only is it dishonest but they always find out. What goes around comes around. And when they do find something out, it's always ten times worse than having just come out with it in the first place.

[GQ-Bouncer]

Oh for fvcksakes Flagg,

Women aren't real people - lying to them is the moral equivalent to lying to your dog

[NotSmall]

Huh? Doesn't make you any less of a liar. The view that anything you don't know won't hurt you is bull. Eventually you find out, and it hurts.

Getting caught's the crime!

[Psychotron]

Huh? Doesn't make you any less of a liar. The view that anything you don't know won't hurt you is bull. Eventually you find out, and it hurts.

If you ask a question to which you have no right to know the answer I can tell you whatever I want, there is no lie, you aren't privleged to the knowledge.

[T3/T4 GSR]

Oh for fvcksakes Flagg,

Women aren't real people - lying to them is the moral equivalent to lying to your dog

Excellent point!

[AnabolicAndre]

damn am I the only one who believes in forgiveness.

tell her to let it go. Why would you want to be with someone who cant forgive, think about it she's gonna hassle you about something this small, imagine what itll be like down the road when you two get closer and things are more serious.

Unless you're married or enganged then you're a moron for lieing. I feel no one should be married or engaged if theyre not 1110% comfortable with each other. I mean dont get me wrong everyone stretches the truth every here and there but when it something of that nature concerning the other sex, thats when you crossed the line.

She probably sees it as you have something going with this girl otherwise you wouldnt have a reason to lie about her... well,,, do you?

[Carlos_E]

If you ask a question to which you have no right to know the answer I can tell you whatever I want, there is no lie, you aren't privleged to the knowledge.

If you are in a relationship with someone. How does she not have the right to honesty? Your answer shows you're not a trust worthy person. You're playing verbal gymnastics to justify lying.

[BOUNCER]

Huh? Doesn't make you any less of a liar. The view that anything you don't know won't hurt you is bull. Eventually you find out, and it hurts.

Very, very true.

[Flagg]

Anabolic, nah I never had anything going with this other girl. It was a long time ago now and it only seemed to ever come up if there was an argument about anything. Aw well.

[Dying Wail]

I hate lies any and all lies.