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    question on p/f after cardio

    Is taking Isopure whey w/flaxseed oil right after morning cardio bad? I've done a search, but most recomend to wait 30-40 minuts and do a p/c. my second meal will be an hour anyways with a p/c meal.


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    My god thats confusing to read..i need sleep!

    Why have a pro/fat then a pro/carb meal..and one hour later?

    It is up to you if you wanna have a pro/fat or pro/carb 45min after AM cardio, i have done both and now choose pro/carb
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    pro/carb for me

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    So there's no difference at all. If I have a p/f right after cardio, like whey w/flaxseed oil, it's OK, or just wait 30 minutes to have p/c.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaidenOnslaught
    So there's no difference at all. If I have a p/f right after cardio, like whey w/flaxseed oil, it's OK, or just wait 30 minutes to have p/c.
    i would wait a little longer to have a pro/carb meal than i would having a pro/fat meal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp
    i would wait a little longer to have a pro/carb meal than i would having a pro/fat meal.

    why is that? when do you workout? after a p/f?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaidenOnslaught
    why is that? when do you workout? after a p/f?
    Introduction of carbs blunt lipolysis. Then again, so does protein. Only exception would be pure fat. But after low intensity cardio, fat burning is minimal anyhow. It really doesn't matter as much as people think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaidenOnslaught
    why is that? when do you workout? after a p/f?
    we were talking about cardio. no one shouldn't workout after a pro/fat. you should always have carbs pre and post workout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaidenOnslaught
    So there's no difference at all. If I have a p/f right after cardio, like whey w/flaxseed oil, it's OK, or just wait 30 minutes to have p/c.

    why wait 30mins after cardio to have your pro/carb meal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp
    pro/carb for me

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    again as we know that after cardio, u can be in a very catabolic state thus wee must decide wheter the marginal time of eating and preserving muscle or the marginal time of waiting for fat loss; is a better choice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by russia dog
    again as we know that after cardio, u can be in a very catabolic state thus wee must decide wheter the marginal time of eating and preserving muscle or the marginal time of waiting for fat loss; is a better choice?
    Exactly. I think the risk of muscle loss is too great to wait for the minimal fat loss after cardio. I'll always eat within 15 minutes of cardio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russia dog
    again as we know that after cardio, u can be in a very catabolic state thus wee must decide wheter the marginal time of eating and preserving muscle or the marginal time of waiting for fat loss;
    This is so true RD.

    I for one am more concerned about the catabolic state that I'm in and actually bring a shake with me to the gym. I'd rather feed my body and worry about fat loss another day. Plus I"m the type that is STARVING after my workouts and need to fuel up.

    To each is own on this one.

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    i always bring my amino drink with me and after cardio i down it. i'm so hungry and i need me some protein synthesis to start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp
    i always bring my amino drink with me and after cardio i down it. i'm so hungry and i need me some protein synthesis to start.

    What Amino drink do you prefer?

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    Any food you eat aside from 100% pure fat will cause a rise in plasma insulin levels. So therefore no matter what you eat you will blunt lipolysis.

    As I have stated 100x before Lipolysis is OVERRATED. It means very little in the way of fat loss. Do you need lypolysis, yes. But I think people have the definition of lipolysis very very confused.

    Here is the Definition:

    The breakdown of fat stored in fat cells is known as lipolysis. During this process, free fatty acids are released into the bloodstream and circulate throughout the body.

    No you tell me why this is overrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giants11
    Any food you eat aside from 100% pure fat will cause a rise in plasma insulin levels. So therefore no matter what you eat you will blunt lipolysis.

    As I have stated 100x before Lipolysis is OVERRATED. It means very little in the way of fat loss. Do you need lypolysis, yes. But I think people have the definition of lipolysis very very confused.

    Here is the Definition:

    The breakdown of fat stored in fat cells is known as lipolysis. During this process, free fatty acids are released into the bloodstream and circulate throughout the body.

    Now you tell me why this is overrated.
    Hmmmm........ that's tough. Maybe it's because you have to be doing sometihing to burn fat durring lipolysis or the FFA's will be converted back into tryglycerides and stored as fat.

    So to recap. Pro/carb and pro/fat will both blunt lipolysis. But it doesn't really matter, as fat loss is minimal after low intensity cardio anyhow.

    Done and done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giants11
    Any food you eat aside from 100% pure fat will cause a rise in plasma insulin levels. So therefore no matter what you eat you will blunt lipolysis.

    As I have stated 100x before Lipolysis is OVERRATED. It means very little in the way of fat loss.

    Ok then, should I avoid having a p/f right after my morning cardio?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaidenOnslaught
    Ok then, should I avoid having a p/f right after my morning cardio?
    You're not getting it. Eat for God's sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1buffsob
    You're not getting it. Eat for God's sake.

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    OK, I get it now .

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1buffsob
    You're not getting it. Eat for God's sake.

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    I know, that's how I feel.

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