tren ace,winny,test enanthate enough time??

[bigguy20]

i have a 20cc bottle of tren ace 75mg/cc
20cc bottle of winny 100mg/cc
and 15 ampules of test enth 250mg/cc

ok im looking to do a small cycle while dieting and conditioning and i have those 3 components to use. this is what im thinking but im not too sure if its enough time. im thinking of doing the test for 8 weeks at small doses as i dont want to retain too much water i just want to do enough test so i dont crash from the tren and winny, and then doing the tren and winny eod for 5 to 5 and a half weeks. so my cycle would look something like this...
week 1-8 test enth
week 1-5 winny
week 1-5 tren ace

does this sound decent?? i find it a lil short but thats all i have to work with right now. any other suggestions??

[littlemantc]

i have a 20cc bottle of tren ace 75mg/cc
20cc bottle of winny 100mg/cc
and 15 ampules of test enth 250mg/cc

ok im looking to do a small cycle while dieting and conditioning and i have those 3 components to use. this is what im thinking but im not too sure if its enough time. im thinking of doing the test for 8 weeks at small doses as i dont want to retain too much water i just want to do enough test so i dont crash from the tren and winny, and then doing the tren and winny eod for 5 to 5 and a half weeks. so my cycle would look something like this...
week 1-8 test enth
week 1-5 winny
week 1-5 tren ace

does this sound decent?? i find it a lil short but thats all i have to work with right now. any other suggestions??

8 weeks is a bit short...it usually dont kick in till 4-6 weeks..and for some people not till the 8th week...the norm is 10-12wk...is this ur first cycle...whats all ur stats...diet,cycle history,age,height ,weight,training exp.?

[bigguy20]

5' 10 215 lbs 14% bodyfat maybe a lil less. 22 yrs old 5th cycle, diet dont wanna type out itll take forever lol. this will be my shortest cycle but the first time using tren and winny, my other cycles were mostly test cycles and usually 10-12 weeks. also im not looking for any size really im just looking to gain a lil muscle and keep what i have while i diet cause i know it is hard to keep muscle density while dieting. i will be doing tons of cardio and im also doing thai boxing so i dont want to get much heavier.

[taiboxa]

i reccommned..
wks 1-6 AAS RESEARCH
wks 1-4 Diet research
wks 1-2 Resistance Training research
then read all the Profiles in the aas profile section.. TWICE!

[bigguy20]

i reccommned..
wks 1-6 AAS RESEARCH
wks 1-4 Diet research
wks 1-2 Resistance Training research
then read all the Profiles in the aas profile section.. TWICE!

what the hell was that??? i dont see anything wrong with what i just asked in here.

[biglouie250]

what the hell was that??? i dont see anything wrong with what i just asked in here.

well like was said earlier....the test enanthate needs to be run for 10-12 weeks..... and you said you are using low doses(didnt give us exact numbers) so you probably wont notice much from it. if your concerned about the bloat get some letro, or why not just get some test prop instead of the enanthate?

[bigguy20]

cant get any test prop at the time and i was thinking of doing test enth at 250mg every 5 days or so. im only doing the test so i dont crash im not doing it to gain size, im just following basic rule of thumb which is to run some test with anything thats not test based. im looking for gains with the tren and winny mostly, thats my worry.

[longhorn814]

wait..too many people end up running half assed cycles b/c they dont have enough time, not enough gear, the wrong gear, or just lack patience. If you cant do it right, dont do it at all. 8 weeks of test e is pretty worthless. Why can you only go for 8 weeks? Dont forget you have to include PCT afterwards and you must really focus on training and diet otherwise, all your gains will be gone. So add at least another 4 weeks on for PCT and youre at 12 weeks for your cycle minimum

[bigguy20]

longhorn you are right and yes i am running post cycle i have my clomid as well as nolva and i know what the proper post cycle procedures will be i just didnt put it because im writing it from my point of view knowing that im going to do it, im just trying to save this from being a 2 page post that nobody wants to read cause its so long, as well im going on vacation in the middle of august so i figure i only have about 8-9 weeks due to the fact that im starting on june first. also like i said many times the test isnt for any other purpose than to keep me from crashing, im not looking to take it for size.
my main concern is the winny and tren. can i get away with doing it that long?

[biglouie250]

i dont have experience with fina so i really dont reasearch it....but will 250mgs of test e every 5 days be enough to stave off fina dick?

[bigguy20]

thanks for the reply biglouie im glad you understand thats the only reason why im doing the test.

[longhorn814]

i always recommend running at least the same amount of test as tren b/c its so supressive..doesnt always have to be that way with less supressive compounds

[taiboxa]

i always recommend running at least the same amount of test as tren b/c its so supressive..doesnt always have to be that way with less supressive compounds

nah as long as he has TRT doses his weiner will work
u kan run 3g tren and 250mg/wk test and have fine peter

[longhorn814]

nah as long as he has TRT doses his weiner will work
u kan run 3g tren and 250mg/wk test and have fine peter

true, thats just my experience with it. Besides if you run 3grams of tren, i think you might have a few other problems to worry about