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    Looking to gain lean/cut fat, fast

    Age: 18
    Height/Weight: 6’0/210lb
    All natural, multi-vit, creatine.
    Looking to cut, high body fat, around 22%. Been working out for maybe… 2 months, nothing solid. Adopting a 6 meal solid diet looking to gain as much lean mass as possible while losing BF.

    Also would like to increase speed and agility and power if possible.

    Basically want a critic on what I’m doing wrong if anything and what I should change if I’m doing it wrong. If this is completely stupid then give me some more guidelines to work by I suppose. Thanks much.



    Cardio 7 days a week, morning, empty stomach

    Monday – Chest/Triceps
    Tuesday -
    Wednesday – Quads/Hams/Calves
    Thursday -
    Friday – Back/Biceps
    Saturday -
    Sunday – Shoulders/Abs/Forearms


    MONDAY
    (Chest/Triceps)


    65% max Set 1 x12
    70% max Set 2 x10
    75% max Set 3 x8
    80% max Set 4 x6
    65% max Set 5 x12

    Chest:
    Flat barbell bench
    Wide grip machine
    Dumbbell flyes

    Triceps:
    Tricep pushdowns
    Tricep presses
    Tricep cable extensions


    WEDNESDAY
    (Quads/Hams/Calves)

    65% max Set 1 x12
    70% max Set 2 x10
    75% max Set 3 x8
    80% max Set 4 x6
    65% max Set 5 x12

    Quads:
    Leg presses
    Leg extensions
    Squats

    Hams:
    Leg curls
    Dumbbell lunges

    Calves:
    Standing calve raises
    Seated calve raises

    FRIDAY
    (Back/Biceps)

    65% max Set 1 x12
    70% max Set 2 x10
    75% max Set 3 x8
    80% max Set 4 x6
    65% max Set 5 x12


    Back:
    T-bar row
    Wide grip lat pulldown
    Straight arm pulldown

    Biceps:
    Preacher curls
    Concentration curls
    Hammer curls




    SUNDAY
    (Shoulders/Abs/Forearms)


    65% max Set 1 x12
    70% max Set 2 x10
    75% max Set 3 x8
    80% max Set 4 x6
    65% max Set 5 x12


    Shoulders:
    Seated press
    Lateral raises
    Shrugs

    Abs:
    Hanging knee raises
    Decline Sit-ups
    Crunches

    Forearms:
    Barbell wrist curls
    Standing barbell wrist curl
    Last edited by Mark Foo; 05-26-2006 at 03:21 PM.

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    What does your diet look like?

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    Meal 1 (7:30) [470 calories] (After morning cardio): 6 egg whites (21g pro), 1 scoop whey (20g pro), 1 red potato

    Meal 2 (9:30) [400 calories]: 3.5oz chicken (33g pro), 1 red potato (40g starchy carbs)

    Meal 3 (12:30) [405 calories]: (Post Workout Meal): 3.5oz turkey (35g pro), 1 sweet potato (40g starchy carbs), 5oz green beans (14g fibrous carbs)

    Meal 4 (2:00) [400 calories]: 5oz Salmon (43g pro), 1 cup brown rice (40g starchy carbs)

    Meal 5 (4:00) [400 calories]: 3.5oz Top round sirloin (33g pro), ), 1 red potato (40g starchy carbs)

    Meal 6 (6:00) [405 calories]: 3.5oz chicken (35g pro), 1 red potatoe (40g starchy carbs), 5oz green beans (14g fibrous carbs)

    Meal 7 (8:00) [180 calories]: 4oz turkey (35g pro), 5oz green beans (14g fibrous carbs)

    Meal 8 (9:30) [300 calories]: 2 scoops whey (40g pro)

    Meal totals: (2950 calories), (287g protein), (242g starchy carbs), (42g fibrous carbs)

    Some variations in meat, all lean though.

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    You need to include some good fats in your diet other than that it looks good to me, But you may want to post it in the dier forum.

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    Focus on either cutting or bulking. Cutting = lost bf, Bulking = gain muscle, its really difficult to do the 2 at the same time.

    other than that, I can suggest posting the diet on the diet forum, taking ECA to help lose fat and taking some sort to creatine (not mono) pre-workout to maintain/gain a little bit of muscle.

    Closest thing to your goal. Good luck

    Bryan

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    Your cals are way too high to cut. Like bcap said, pick one or the other. And at your stats, cutting is the way to go for sure.

    1buffsob

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    Hey Kyle - as an aside, I was told today by some random guy @ a local supps store that cutting before bulking is useless because when you bulk you'll put on all that weight you just cut off. I argued by saying that when I cut from something I have always been at (being bigger), i am cutting the fat, then i will build lean mass and maybe put on a bit of fat, but not as much as i am at now.

    This a good argument? You have anything else to add? I want to go in and argue with him again!

    Bryan

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    Steps to bodybuilding:

    Step 1. Cutting: Lose as much fat possible while losing minimal muscle.
    Step 2. Bulking: Gain as much muscle possible while gaining minimal fat.
    Step 3. Rinse and repeat.

    Bcap, if your diet is right and training is good, logically, you'll come in at a higher lbm each year while maintaining a low bf%. No point in argueing with the idiot at the supp store. In 2 years, he'll still be a fat idiot with no muscle, while you'll be 30lbs heavier with a lower bf%.

    1buffsob

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    Agreed. Stupid fat guy. He was fat too - what the shit does he know.

    Blaah. Then he told me that i shoudl stop what i'm doing cause i'm wasting my time. I'm going to bring in my progress picks and tell him to shove them up his ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1buffsob
    Your cals are way too high to cut. Like bcap said, pick one or the other. And at your stats, cutting is the way to go for sure.

    1buffsob
    what this guy said.

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    Every cut and bulk cycle your BF percent should be lower right?

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