after pct of first cycle pics (old)

[leansauce]

this was after my first cycle which was dbol deca and test, i got nice gains but also acquired some stretchies

pics attached, bad quality i know and no back or leg pics ill get some soon
lemme get some comments

o yea these pics are right after my 20th bday and a few weeks after my two month long pct that followed the 15 week cycle,
i went from 155-180 and was 170 in these pics

[Foskamink]

im a newb here and havnt been here more then 2 days but from waht i learnt so far.. u havnt workd out long enough before taking gear

[mwolffey]

im a newb here and havnt been here more then 2 days but from waht i learnt so far.. u havnt workd out long enough before taking gear

nice ....very true, but you made the jump but nice gains anyways....train hard naturally imo for a while bro

[bigbrad2985]

no before pics?

[Andorious]

don't know wht you looked like before, but i hope you can keep the gains you made. in the future, when posting pics, try posting different poses from different angles. u basically posted the same pose, which isnt much of a pose, (can't tell if ur flexing or not) 5 times. neways, ur traps could use work, and ur chest looks like there's alot to b desired, esp. in regards to fullness. can't really see nething else to give you an honest critique. what r ur goals?

[leansauce]

don't know wht you looked like before, but i hope you can keep the gains you made. in the future, when posting pics, try posting different poses from different angles. u basically posted the same pose, which isnt much of a pose, (can't tell if ur flexing or not) 5 times. neways, ur traps could use work, and ur chest looks like there's alot to b desired, esp. in regards to fullness. can't really see nething else to give you an honest critique. what r ur goals?

r u saying my chest looks full or has a lot of room for improvement? i dont understand,

o and to the newb up there thanks for your reiteration of what you have heard, just for your information the cycle went great! i put on a lot of good quality weight and its about a year later and i still weigh 175, thats twenty pounds of lean muscle in one year!! even after losing all the water and crap weight post cycle and with no other cycles since so i dont understand why u say i started too early please explain... actually no i dont care about your
specific lack of knowledge on the subject of jiuce, how old do u think arnold started juicing or lee priest or shit i could just go on forever..

[Foskamink]

r u saying my chest looks full or has a lot of room for improvement?

imo u need to work on the top and middle of ur chest mainly to make it whole.
was wondering how tall u are.. just to compare urself to me.. in size ect.. and shape im guessing ur atleast 6 foot

[leansauce]

imo u need to work on the top and middle of ur chest mainly to make it whole.
was wondering how tall u are.. just to compare urself to me.. in size ect.. and shape im guessing ur atleast 6 foot

nope im like 5' 9.5" , thats strange that you guys think my chest needs the most work most people think my chest and shoulders are my strong point..
thanks for the comments though, it almost sounds like you guys are saying i have gyno or something, does it really look like the bottom of my pecs are that much bigger than the top and middle? your scaring me

[biglouie250]

o and to the newb up there thanks for your reiteration of what you have heard, just for your information the cycle went great! i put on a lot of good quality weight and its about a year later and i still weigh 175, thats twenty pounds of lean muscle in one year!! even after losing all the water and crap weight post cycle and with no other cycles since so i dont understand why u say i started too early please explain... actually no i dont care about your
specific lack of knowledge on the subject of jiuce, how old do u think arnold started juicing or lee priest or shit i could just go on forever..

we are glad the cycle went well and we all wish you the best, however YOUR lack of knowledge is displayed here. You could have permantley effed up your bodies HTPA, natty test levels, among other things. How would you like to be 30 yo and have erectile issues? At 155lbs you didnt have a solid base to build upon. And at under 20yrs old you are too young, your body is still not fully developed and although you may have stopped growing your growth plates arent fully fused yet. You should have waited for 4-5 years of hard training and eating and putting on 40-50 solid lbs. 20lbs isnt a ton of weight to put on either, you could put that on naturally in a year if it was your first year working out. DIET is everything, not juice. and your reference to arnold and other pro's is silly because you yourself have 0 knowledge of when they started.

[leansauce]

we are glad the cycle went well and we all wish you the best, however YOUR lack of knowledge is displayed here. You could have permantley effed up your bodies HTPA, natty test levels, among other things. How would you like to be 30 yo and have erectile issues? At 155lbs you didnt have a solid base to build upon. And at under 20yrs old you are too young, your body is still not fully developed and although you may have stopped growing your growth plates arent fully fused yet. You should have waited for 4-5 years of hard training and eating and putting on 40-50 solid lbs. 20lbs isnt a ton of weight to put on either, you could put that on naturally in a year if it was your first year working out. DIET is everything, not juice. and your reference to arnold and other pro's is silly because you yourself have 0 knowledge of when they started.

lol are u kidding me, this kinda stuff is ridiculous, why do u think i had any more chance of ruining my htpa then a 25 year old?? anyways i got bloodtested 3 months after my pct post cyle and my total test levels were through the roof, they were above the recommended range!! good call though u obviously dont have a lack of knowledge on this subject cus u know everything and i totally ruin my natural test production didnt I? also my cholesterol was great on and off cycle, my bp was fine and my heart was examined afterwards and was in perfect working condition.
Plus u dumbass my diet is probably wayyyyyy better than your im the last person you need to talk about diet and training to, please save your ridiculous talk about morals, your not going to be able to force your personal OPINIONS AND BELIEFS on me. what u kno is not fact it is what you heard from the grape vine and what you want to think to be true, i was fully grown and fully ready to go under the needle and u would have no idea wether i was or not considering you NEVER KNEW OR SAW ME! o and I DO KNOW when arnold and lee priest started juicing and pretty much all my favorite bodybuilders, nice try though!! look at the pic of arnold when he was 19 and try and tell me he hadnt been juicing for atleast two years GOD I HATE it when people who dont know me or anything about bodybuilding try and jump to conclusions and convince me I am the one who lacks knowledge! i researched for over a year and MY CYCLE WENT GREAT DO U NOT UNDERSTAND THIS? there was no problems bloodwork and all stop making an ass out of yourself becuz obviusly its u who lacks the knowledge!

o and im just curious, how do u kno that i kno nothing about the pros? do u really kno me that well? are we good friends? do i kno u? o wait your a random person you dont kno anything about my knowledge so dont assume anything about me, o and if you want to make a difference about people u think are too young juicing heres a tip of advice, stick to the ones who havent already started finished and posted pics of their cycle results!!
your obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed so ill do u a favor and let it slide this time, dont let your retarded mumbling come out again on my threads start your own threads for your moral debates

[biglouie250]

lol are u kidding me, this kinda stuff is ridiculous, why do u think i had any more chance of ruining my htpa then a 25 year old?? anyways i got bloodtested 3 months after my pct post cyle and my total test levels were through the roof, they were above the recommended range!! good call though u obviously dont have a lack of knowledge on this subject cus u know everything and i totally ruin my natural test production didnt I? also my cholesterol was great on and off cycle, my bp was fine and my heart was examined afterwards and was in perfect working condition.
Plus u dumbass my diet is probably wayyyyyy better than your im the last person you need to talk about diet and training to, please save your ridiculous talk about morals, your not going to be able to force your personal OPINIONS AND BELIEFS on me. what u kno is not fact it is what you heard from the grape vine and what you want to think to be true, i was fully grown and fully ready to go under the needle and u would have no idea wether i was or not considering you NEVER KNEW OR SAW ME! o and I DO KNOW when arnold and lee priest started juicing and pretty much all my favorite bodybuilders, nice try though!! look at the pic of arnold when he was 19 and try and tell me he hadnt been juicing for atleast two years GOD I HATE it when people who dont know me or anything about bodybuilding try and jump to conclusions and convince me I am the one who lacks knowledge! i researched for over a year and MY CYCLE WENT GREAT DO U NOT UNDERSTAND THIS? there was no problems bloodwork and all stop making an ass out of yourself becuz obviusly its u who lacks the knowledge!

o and im just curious, how do u kno that i kno nothing about the pros? do u really kno me that well? are we good friends? do i kno u? o wait your a random person you dont kno anything about my knowledge so dont assume anything about me, o and if you want to make a difference about people u think are too young juicing heres a tip of advice, stick to the ones who havent already started finished and posted pics of their cycle results!!
your obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed so ill do u a favor and let it slide this time, dont let your retarded mumbling come out again on my threads start your own threads for your moral debates

thank you. your PM to me will be sent to the appropriate mods. i wasnt flaming you, and its not a moral thing. I was telling you to be safe. of course your test levels are fine NOW. thats why i said would you like a limp wang at the age of 30. 155lbs IS NOT A SOLID BASE unless you are 3'5" tall. you can not tell me that your genetics are that bad! no one believes you. visit the diet forum and read the bulking sticky.....you can easily put that weight on. i have, and so have others.

thanks for letting it slide, id hate to PO a 170lb madman.

[*Narkissos*]

look at the pic of arnold when he was 19 and try and tell me he hadnt been juicing for atleast two years GOD I HATE it when people who dont know me or anything about bodybuilding try and jump to conclusions and convince me I am the one who lacks knowledge!

You know what i find most amusing?

When people use other people as an excuse for their own actions.

"But arnold did it"

Ok... and Arnold squeezed fondled some chicks and got away with it... How bout you try that too and see if you're as lucky.

Idiocy

~Narkissos

[Foskamink]

owhy u say i started too early please explain... actually no i dont care about your

well i thinks its too early.. cause imo u cant have gained enough expirence and knowledge on training if ur that size after ur first cycle.. cause thats not a unreasonable weight and shape to obtain from a few months of natural work

basicly im mentioning what Andorious said about ur 155 and starting gear.. it just seams ur trying to cheat urself to how u want to be as fast as possible..

sorry but thats how i feel..

myles

[leansauce]

o and yea i know i suck at taking pics and i wont post again until i have someone else take pics of me so i can do all the angles... im also not really flexing in the poses cus i dont practice posing so i decided i might as well just take the pics relaxed and unflexed,

[END-RAGE]

ey bro, it seems like ur PCT went well, can u tell me what u did for pct?

[leansauce]

ey bro, it seems like ur PCT went well, can u tell me what u did for pct?

i did the anthony roberts pct with a little tweaking,
my pct included aromasin nolvadex clomid trib zma argninie luceine and all my other usual vitamins and minerals, at one point i thought i was getting gyno but everyone else who saw me without a shirt on thinks i was just paranoid, only sides i had was some acne on cycle and in pct and i got a nice stretch mark under each of my shoulders (in the armpit) which i am now using every cream imaginable on lol
when i was on cycle i was LARGE this pic is like 2 months atleast after the actual cycle ended so what your looking at is what i kept from the cycle about 15lbs of lean muscle to be exact, when i still had all that water weight i looked ridiculous.

i had been training for a loooong time before starting this cycle i started training on a regular basis when i was about 14 for sports and became seious when i was 17, didnt juice til i was almost almost 20 becuz i reached a plateua when i was 19 at 155, sounds ridiculous but my genes just werent allowing me to gain anymore weight i had been at this weight for about 2 years training 4-5 days a week and eating on my wrestler's diet which was wayyy proper. i dont regret my decision, i just wish there would have been some way to prevent the strethch marks but they are hardly visible in their location anyways

[*Narkissos*]

i did the anthony roberts pct with a little tweaking,
my pct included aromasin nolvadex clomid trib zma argninie luceine and all my other usual vitamins and minerals,

how can it be the 'anthony roberts pct' if you 'tweaked it'?

[Andorious]

im saying there is a lot of room for improvement for your chest. i feel it is a weak point you should continue to focus on. My comment was stating that ur chest could use some work, as it lacks fullness. but im sure it looks better then before, after you put on tht weight, so just keep hitting it hard

[Andorious]

no im not saying nething about gyno. all im saying is ur chest lacks in size and fullness esp. upper chest. But since i dont have any before pics to compare it to, i'm comparing it to some of the other guys on the board tht i've seen. maybe in comparison to what u looked like b4, ur chest looks great, but i have no idea

[Andorious]

don't get too crazy ovr this man. u have to expect when u come to a board asking for critique or advice or w/e tht ppl are gonna make some general comments, b/c this is a public board and don't know every detail of ur life. and to quote urself it does sound ridiculous to reach a plateau at 19, 155lbs. so don't b shocked wen ppl question ur diet or ur readiness for juice.

[PlasticFuture112]

nice gains even though a clean weight gainer, protein, flax, and others including strenuous working out and planned dieting would have done the trick for ya. Probably almost as fast. From the looks of your pics i can easily tell that one, your diet wasnt great at all so dont try and BS me saying it was, two, you focused on specific lift, ie- chest to try and prove you can lift a shyt-ton, hence the massive stretch marks on a littler frame. That or you just over extend your arms when lifting. Im not trying to sit here and bash what you've felt like has been accomplished over these past 15 weeks but the gear that you have claimed to have been on could have made a ton of ppl big on the first cycle. heck, just the test alone should have been enough to have an enormous difference in how your body looks. So basically you were either not very good looking in the body before you took this gear, diet was way out of whack, and you definately didnt train hard enough to show significant difference in your body frame. Dont take this negatively and I dont wanna see the ole F.You. comments if you decide to respond. This is constructive criticism so take it as it is and learn from it. Good luck to ya

[Foskamink]

in doing ur cycle at 155 u have slowed down ur next cycle and proteinal for working out from now on... u prolly woulda gained twice and much in a compareable ratio if u did ur cycle at 180..

[SwoleCat]

If you are going to take steroids, you should probably considering lifting weights too. They usually go hand in hand.

Sorry, but your attitude coupled w/your desire to not listen has just placed you on the ballot for cockhelmet/cheesedick of the year. I bet your legs look like Willy Wonka Pixy f*cking Stix.

Enjoy your vacation, and try to find a gym and actually SET FOOT IN ONE!!!

F*cking ignorant ass children.

~!SC!~

[SwoleCat]

P.S., if your diet was "that great" like you said it was, you wouldn't look like a malnourished kid we see on t.v. who is looking to be sponsored to survive from starvation. Gear or not, a sound diet would have added weight to your frame, but the only thing you gained is a bitch ass attitude.

~SC~

[PlasticFuture112]

He basically has no right even bringing Arnold up in this event of utter BS....Who cares if Arnold has been juicing for long periods of time, nobody can really know his exact time of cycling but can only make assumptions. IN Addition, LOOK AT ARNOLD!! He was proof of dedication and hard work that made him look like he did at 19. His arms were bigger than your quads kid. So stop with the "Well he did it" crap. Not gonna work, and you used the Pioneer of the sport to relate yourself to...HAHA No way bud. Better luck in a different forum, or gym for that matter.

[timtim]

awesome diet? please, dont insult the good people at ar with such lies and propaganda!

your knowledge of juice and training? please man, are you kidding? you dont even look like you work out yet you have the ego of a 300 pound monster. diluted thinking on your part.

[PlasticFuture112]

Well fellas, tink we scared him away...This thread looks toast to me

[biglouie250]

Well fellas, tink we scared him away...This thread looks toast to me

nope he got suspended for the PM he sent me.

[SwoleCat]

Yeah, and YOU AIN'T ARNOLD BEE-YATCH!!!!!!!

Jeezus....comparing Urkel to one of the greatest of all times has to be the biggest non-sequitor to date.

~SC~

[Giants11]

Word to the wise. Don't send threatening PM's to Respected Members.

And don't cycle when you're five foot nothin, a hundered and nothin............

[SwoleCat]

Boooooh, he locked it!!!



~SC~

[Giants11]

Unlocked..............Fire away boys!

[*Narkissos*]

Unlocked..............Fire away boys!

+1 more post for the boys in blue.

[Giants11]

I'll whore it in LeanDouche's thread

+1 For the Big Blue Wrecking Crew

[PlasticFuture112]

So i can now write useless nonsense like i am as a result of post whoring? God love these magnificient mods!!! OK im done...OUT

[C_Bino]

Swolecat you are f*cking hilarious, I heard about this thread and had to come take a look. This guy is mouthing off as if he has a perfect training and diet regimen but then shows pics that look like I did when I was in grade 4. Ontop of that being pretty pathetic, HE USED AAS to accomplish it...wait wait...HES ALSO PROUD OF THAT.

My good lord, if thats what I looked like after my first cycle I would probably NEVER admit it unless I was hoping to win the idiot of the year award.

I try not to flame, but damn when you come off like a prick like that and you look like a vegetarian who eats 2 meals a day and plays X-Box all day I gotta say something.

[pepperoni]

Swolecat you are f*cking hilarious, I heard about this thread and had to come take a look. This guy is mouthing off as if he has a perfect training and diet regimen but then shows pics that look like I did when I was in grade 4. Ontop of that being pretty pathetic, HE USED AAS to accomplish it...wait wait...HES ALSO PROUD OF THAT.

My good lord, if thats what I looked like after my first cycle I would probably NEVER admit it unless I was hoping to win the idiot of the year award.

I try not to flame, but damn when you come off like a prick like that and you look like a vegetarian who eats 2 meals a day and plays X-Box all day I gotta say something.

HAHAHAHA

[*Narkissos*]

Swolecat you are f*cking hilarious, I heard about this thread and had to come take a look. This guy is mouthing off as if he has a perfect training and diet regimen but then shows pics that look like I did when I was in grade 4. Ontop of that being pretty pathetic, HE USED AAS to accomplish it...wait wait...HES ALSO PROUD OF THAT.

My good lord, if thats what I looked like after my first cycle I would probably NEVER admit it unless I was hoping to win the idiot of the year award.

I try not to flame, but damn when you come off like a prick like that and you look like a vegetarian who eats 2 meals a day and plays X-Box all day I gotta say something.

I hate to admit it... but he's worst than Tank...

Man... hella worse

[chest6]

Oh man this thread is fvckin hilarious. The Urkel comment almost killed me Man..its crazy how mad some people get when they don't hear what they wanna hear. When you post pics...you may get advice, negative comments etc..but thats all part of it. Anyone not knowing that, and then blowing up when they receive it..is just a little bitch.

[Ntpadude]

this was after my first cycle which was dbol deca and test, i got nice gains but also acquired some stretchies

Some stretchies??? And you are 175 lbs? I believe unless you are 5'5" you dont have to worry about stretchies until you are like 220 lbs or more, unless you are talking about a wedgie.