how many hrs is needed between cardio and weight trainning?

[quaker48]

my work hrs have changed I'm able to do my cardio 1st in the mourning at 6 a.m. then my weights at 11:30 A.m. Are my cardio and weight trainning to close to gather? Im currently just cutting up rite now.

[Ufa]

I do cardio then weights. No wait! Just me.

[ascendant]

I do cardio then weights. No wait! Just me.

do you mean one right after the other? should be doing it the other way around. going to waste your time burning out all your glucose and glycogen with the cardio and having far less energy for lifting.

[ascendant]

my work hrs have changed I'm able to do my cardio 1st in the mourning at 6 a.m. then my weights at 11:30 A.m. Are my cardio and weight trainning to close to gather? Im currently just cutting up rite now.

well, as long as you're getting a good meal or two in between there, you should be ok. just make sure to take in a pretty decent amount of calories between the two to replenish lost blood glucose and muscle glycogen for the workout.

[*Narkissos*]

my work hrs have changed I'm able to do my cardio 1st in the mourning at 6 a.m. then my weights at 11:30 A.m. Are my cardio and weight trainning to close to gather? Im currently just cutting up rite now.

I read a study recently.. i'd have to dig for it.

But it said that prolonged aerobic activity (cardio) will result in decreased output in anaerobic activity (weight-training) if done within 8 hours prior to the anaerobic activity.

[NEW_IN_THE_GAME]

i sumtimes do cardio then weights.

most of the time i do weights, then wait like 15mins , have my pwo shake with all the goodies in it. then do my cardio 10mins after that.

[SwoleCat]

i sumtimes do cardio then weights.

most of the time i do weights, then wait like 15mins , have my pwo shake with all the goodies in it. then do my cardio 10mins after that.

Cardio then weights is never a good idea.

The 2nd scenario has you using all of your pwo recovery nutrients to fuel your cardio session. Problem here is that you are using those recovery nutrients for fuel during cardio and thus they do nothing for helping muscular recovery which is the entire reason for a post-workout shake. Even worse, you will burn no fat during cardio because you are using your pwo offering for fuel.

So, you're killing the progress of both activities (aerobics/anaerobics) by doing this.

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[NEW_IN_THE_GAME]

damn i been doing it like this for 6 weeks, i alternate 10 week each way. thanks i will switch back

[little_soldier]

swolecat then cardio shall not be done except in days off , right ?

[cfiler]

I do am cardio, and then weights after work, so it's about 9-10 hours inbetween. That works best for me.

[rar1015]

I lift one day and the next day i do cardio.

[SwoleCat]

swolecat then cardio shall not be done except in days off , right ?

No, not at all.

One can easily do morning cardio, then perform weight training later in the day/early evening.

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[chest6]

What I've been doin now is AM cardio on empty and then PWO cardio..so cardio 2x a day on lifting days only. I noticed a big difference when I lifted in the morning and did PM cardio...not nearly as effective..def. a difference..

[*Narkissos*]

What I've been doin now is AM cardio on empty and then PWO cardio..so cardio 2x a day on lifting days only. I noticed a big difference when I lifted in the morning and did PM cardio...not nearly as effective..def. a difference..

I'm starting that from tomorrow

Actually the original plan involved pwo cardio twice per day.. as i may be training twice per day for the next 9 weeks.

Not sure which protocol i'll adopt.

Will gauge how i feel in the am

Nark

[chest6]

I'm starting that from tomorrow

Actually the original plan involved pwo cardio twice per day.. as i may be training twice per day for the next 9 weeks.

Not sure which protocol i'll adopt.

Will gauge how i feel in the am

Nark

Yeah..I love it. It's really the only thing that has worked to get rid of some of this stubborn stomach fat I have..that has never gone away until I started it. Not sure how the hell I'll get under 10% this go-round...but I aint gonna stop cutting til I do. I don't think its possible for me to get lean . I may start cardio 2x a day 6x a week. Meh..we'll see.

[boxingbean]

run in mornin, lift at nite is what i do or vica versa

[JohnboyF]

swole how much later? Is there a minimum hour range? For example i do my Cardio on my days off from school at 10am then I will go to the Gym art 3 or 4 is that enough time?

[Bigun]

Fez it depends what you are eating and what your energy levels are like. For example what are you consuming PWO after your cardio session? I ask as depending on what you ingest, you may not have enough stored muscle glycogen to get through an intense lifting session without 'pick me ups' such as caffeine and the like. The difficulty you may have with your schedule is that you dont want to be consuming carbs too soon after your CV session

[SwoleCat]

swole how much later? Is there a minimum hour range? For example i do my Cardio on my days off from school at 10am then I will go to the Gym art 3 or 4 is that enough time?

I usually "prescribe" getting at least 2 meals in between the events.

So, about 5-6 hours time-wise.

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[peteroy01]

doing cardio after a workout seem like it would piss away that 30min window u have to feed those hungry muscles after ur workout. let me know if doing cardio expands that window or is the window BS.

[JohnboyF]

Thanks

[SwoleCat]

doing cardio after a workout seem like it would piss away that 30min window u have to feed those hungry muscles after ur workout. let me know if doing cardio expands that window or is the window BS.

If one wishes to do cardio after weights, the best thing to do is to break up bodyparts more so that you can hit the weights for 30 mins, then cardio for 30 mins. Then follow w/your usual pwo shake/meals/whatever you do.

The usual issue w/pwo cardio is people weight training for an hour or more, then doing cardio after that. That is something I would NOT do.

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[stayinstacked]

When I'm dieting I do my cardio right after weights, the whole morning empty stomach shit is blown way out of proportion. If your cutting then you need to eat less calories than you burn, bottom line. Wether or not your doing cardio on an empty stomach in the morning, or right after you lift, the calorie count throughout the day is still the same. You need to find that fine line where your losing 2-3 lbs/wk MAX or your going to lose too much muscle and look more flat than ripped. So let me ask you this, if you can still manage to lose 2-3 lbs/wk doing cardio PWO when you've already had some food in you that day, why would you wanna **** around and burn off calories first thing in the morning when you've already been 7 or 8 hrs w/out food? It's called breakfast because your breaking a fast, breakfast. You need to eat right when you get up, your body is in a state of catabolism as it is on low calories, why make it worse w/ some am cardio? I do my cardio PWO and still get shredded as shit. And to me PWO nutrition as far as sugars go is not important during a cutting phase, your body will convert slow burning carbs into glycogen stores, and your trying to cut up and not build, so whats it really matter? You dont need that sudden insulin spike to promote growth, which is what the sigar does(actually pretty unnecessary as insulin has a direct corrolation to fat storage anyways) when your cutting. Some will argue this point and say that the sugar is for recovery puroses and not just for building, but you never fully recover if your cutting correctly, which is the #1 sole reason bodybuilders are their weakest, the day of the show!! Flame away now, I'm ready for the message board trend followers

[gr8gear]

When I'm dieting I do my cardio right after weights, the whole morning empty stomach shit is blown way out of proportion. If your cutting then you need to eat less calories than you burn, bottom line. Wether or not your doing cardio on an empty stomach in the morning, or right after you lift, the calorie count throughout the day is still the same. You need to find that fine line where your losing 2-3 lbs/wk MAX or your going to lose too much muscle and look more flat than ripped. So let me ask you this, if you can still manage to lose 2-3 lbs/wk doing cardio PWO when you've already had some food in you that day, why would you wanna **** around and burn off calories first thing in the morning when you've already been 7 or 8 hrs w/out food? It's called breakfast because your breaking a fast, breakfast. You need to eat right when you get up, your body is in a state of catabolism as it is on low calories, why make it worse w/ some am cardio? I do my cardio PWO and still get shredded as shit. And to me PWO nutrition as far as sugars go is not important during a cutting phase, your body will convert slow burning carbs into glycogen stores, and your trying to cut up and not build, so whats it really matter? You dont need that sudden insulin spike to promote growth, which is what the sigar does(actually pretty unnecessary as insulin has a direct corrolation to fat storage anyways) when your cutting. Some will argue this point and say that the sugar is for recovery puroses and not just for building, but you never fully recover if your cutting correctly, which is the #1 sole reason bodybuilders are their weakest, the day of the show!! Flame away now, I'm ready for the message board trend followers

huh.......theoretically this makes sense. its nice to see something different that works posted on the board. I know I have a hard time doing cardio first thing after waking up on an empty stomach.

[SwoleCat]

Best course of action is to do what works for you. I most certainly do, and it works for those I assist as well.

In regards to sugars/dextrose pwo, it's more of a blunting of cortisol issue, not one solely related to glycogen storage.

Again, find your niche and stick to it. No need to get all angry/upset and call people "message board trend followers", people come here for advice, and that is what they get. What they choose to adopt is up to him/her. Valium man, valium.

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[*Narkissos*]

When I'm dieting I do my cardio right after weights, the whole morning empty stomach shit is blown way out of proportion. If your cutting then you need to eat less calories than you burn, bottom line. Wether or not your doing cardio on an empty stomach in the morning, or right after you lift, the calorie count throughout the day is still the same. You need to find that fine line where your losing 2-3 lbs/wk MAX or your going to lose too much muscle and look more flat than ripped. So let me ask you this, if you can still manage to lose 2-3 lbs/wk doing cardio PWO when you've already had some food in you that day, why would you wanna **** around and burn off calories first thing in the morning when you've already been 7 or 8 hrs w/out food? It's called breakfast because your breaking a fast, breakfast. You need to eat right when you get up, your body is in a state of catabolism as it is on low calories, why make it worse w/ some am cardio? I do my cardio PWO and still get shredded as shit. And to me PWO nutrition as far as sugars go is not important during a cutting phase, your body will convert slow burning carbs into glycogen stores, and your trying to cut up and not build, so whats it really matter? You dont need that sudden insulin spike to promote growth, which is what the sigar does(actually pretty unnecessary as insulin has a direct corrolation to fat storage anyways) when your cutting. Some will argue this point and say that the sugar is for recovery puroses and not just for building, but you never fully recover if your cutting correctly, which is the #1 sole reason bodybuilders are their weakest, the day of the show!! Flame away now, I'm ready for the message board trend followers

Typos aside... I agree with a large percentage of what you've said here.

('cept the slin/fat-storage co-relation which is out of it's depth here)

Nark