test and estro level extremely high - please help !!

[WonderMikeJ]

hey guys,

i put on a post a few weeks ago noting that i had swollen ankles and under the advice of a few peeps i checked it out with my doctor. She noted that it was the AS and not to worry but at my suggestion we did blood work just to check where i was at..

today i get the call.. my test is around 4000 !! and my estrogen is around 1500 - 2000 !!! my liver and kidney functions are normal but she noted that over time it could get bad..

Needless to say i'm a bit worried but in all actuallity i'm still level as far being way over in the test side, but the estrogen is still extremely high and a bit scary... i have no signs of gyno or acne or obvious aromitization..

i'm taking 150mg of Test Prop EOD
and was on 200mg of Primo weekly (just finished)

I was going to continue the Prop at 150 eod until the final three weeks and taper down to 100 or 50 and begin Fina this weekend in place of the Primo.

i've also been taking letro 5.0 mgs ed and tamox 1cc liquid each day, i finished off my arimidex last weekend but was taking 1cc of liquid of that each day also.

any ideas ? should i be worried ? should i lower the test or raise the test or any ideas on bumping up the anti-e's .. little scared.. I also have some exemestane i haven't cracked open yet - any thoughts on using that or dosage of all three to get this corrected ??

Thanks ahead time for your thoughts and ideas..

wondermike

[WonderMikeJ]

here're my plan let me know what you think..

Exemestane 25-50 mgs ed
Letro - .25-.50 mgs- probably .50 mgs ed
Nolvadex - 10 mgs ed

that should knock the damn estro way down and possibly bump the test up a bit.. should i be worried that my test levels are around 4K when normal range is around 400 ??

[WonderMikeJ]

from what i've been reading average male test should run between 300-1200 and estrogen can be 12-34 picograms per ml of blood. so the dumbass receptionist just belted out number and gave me no measurements, scare tactic as far as i'm concerned. I'm still going to get my AI's in check but not be so concerned with the rates.. especially since she noted that my liver is fine and my kidney and all other tests came back perfect..

[Jsik98]

Wow!! That's incredible man! It's strange that you have such high estrogen levels even though you're on anti-e's. I'm sorry I have no advice for you my man, but glad to bump this up for you. What did the doctor suggest you do about this besides the obvious?

[cmax]

I find it extremely hard to believe that your test levels were at 4000 and your estrogen levels were at 1500 - 2000 with just taking 150mg of Test Prop EOD and 200mg of Primo weekly.

The letro 5.0 mgs ED would not allow your estrogen levels to get this high. That is a ton of letro! You were also taking 1mg of arimidex a day so there is no way. That is a shitload of anti-e's to be taking at once for this cycle.

They normally provide a specific number for your estradiol level results and not a range. A range is provided for the ideal levels next to a single number representing your own level. I also find it rather curious that your testosterone level was exactly at 4000 on the dot. Why not 3859 or 4011? These numbers rarely come back as an evenly rounded number.

The either receptionist is FOS and trying to scare you or you just created this thread to get a reaction out of people.

[Ufa]

cmax -- has a good point. Call and ask if you can pick up your blood work. Maybe the lady gave you the wrong numbers.

[WonderMikeJ]

[QUOTE=cmax]I find it extremely hard to believe that your test levels were at 4000 and your estrogen levels were at 1500 - 2000 with just taking 150mg of Test Prop EOD and 200mg of Primo weekly.

The letro 5.0 mgs ED would not allow your estrogen levels to get this high. That is a ton of letro! You were also taking 1mg of arimidex a day so there is no way. That is a shitload of anti-e's to be taking at once for this cycle.

They normally provide a specific number for your estradiol level results and not a range. A range is provided for the ideal levels next to a single number representing your own level. I also find it rather curious that your testosterone level was exactly at 4000 on the dot. Why not 3859 or 4011? These numbers rarely come back as an evenly rounded number.

The either receptionist is FOS and trying to scare you or you just created this thread to get a reaction out of people.[/QUOTE

i'm not creating the thread to scare anyone, it was my own fears behind posting it, you are both right and i will have them fax over the results to me tomorrow. you a make a good point about a round number that does sound odd.. plus if my estro was that high i'd think i'd see some bad affects..

thanks for the advice.. i will update the post when i get the info.