pics before bulk phase

[branch]

hey guys this is my first real big stack tell me what u think:

stats:
5'7
21 yrs old
178lbs
31' waist
42'chest
24' thighs
17 arms f
16 1/2 calves
14 4arm

im about 193 now tryin to get to 220 230 im gonna be going on a 9 month bulking phase to get ready for my first contest for next yr around this time, these pics were takin bout 2 weeks ago


Wk 1: 100mg Anadrol, 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 2: 100mg Anadrol, 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 3: 100mg Anadrol, 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 4: 100mg Anadrol, 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 5: 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 6: 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 7: 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 8: 750mg Test E, 600 mg Deca
Wk 9: 750mg Test E, 600 mg Deca
Wk 10: 750mg Test E, 600 mg Deca
Wk 11: 750mg Test E, 600 mg Deca
Wk 12: 750mg Test E, 600 mg Deca
Wk 13: 750mg Test E
Wk 14: 750mg Test E
Wk 15: 750mg Test E
Wk 17: NOLVA

do you think the nolva will be enough for post therepy?

[branch]

[copenhagen]

lookin lean bro, impressive muscle for 21. i would throw clomid in for pct as well.

[Swifto]

"hey guys this is my first real big stack"?

Cycle experience in full please.

[mwolffey]

yes cycle experience...and hell no nolva alone is not enough for pct....with that much decca you might wanna look into hcg

[taiotosh7]

I would blast off with some hcg for pct with nolva

[Swifto]

When using a 19-Nor, HCG is a must IMO. Your shutdown to quickly.

[mwolffey]

When using a 19-Nor, HCG is a must IMO. Your shutdown to quickly.

ditto

[branch]

what about this as a semi milider stack

weeks1 -4 anadrol 100 mg
weeks 1-14 deca 400 mg
weeks 1-15 test e 500 mg

serm
nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 150/100/50/50
rebound 1/2/2/3

[guest589745]

Whatever you do, make sure to put more emphasis on your lower body. You would have it all then. Lookin great man.

[taiotosh7]

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[branch]

is hcg illegal,also someone told me i should prob use rebound what u guys think


and as for previous cycles i havent done anything in bout 3 years i cant even remember the dosage maybe like 8 weeks of sus 500mg and another cycle of test prop 400mg and eq 300mg and a fina kit inbetween there so i havent dont anything too crazy yettttttttttt........

[taiotosh7]

is hcg illegal,also someone told me i should prob use rebound what u guys think


and as for previous cycles i havent done anything in bout 3 years i cant even remember the dosage maybe like 8 weeks of sus 500mg and another cycle of test prop 400mg and eq 300mg and a fina kit inbetween there so i havent dont anything too crazy yettttttttttt........

hcg is and can be used in so many different ways bro. For pct it is usually ran 3 weeks up to the day of your nolva/clomid and what ever else you be running for pct......do some research on it you should find some great info in here. I'm running dbol and sust and will be shooting hcg at 500iu every 5 days the last 3 weeks after my cycle then start my nolva

[branch]

thanks for the info tai. its just that some people are tellin me all i need is nolva clomid n rebound n then i hear about this hcg, i just like to make sure everythings right before i start throwin things into my body ya know

[rise2gr8ness]

You look shredded, I would like to see your arms at your sides to see what your dealing with as far as delts go.

At your age your freakin jaked.

I think the deca is a great idea, with all the muscle you will be adding I think the lubrication in your joints will be another positive contribution by that particular aas.

I would have to say however, GH might be a good idea in the future to keep your tendons appropriatly strong. Keep us posted .

I have to adimit IMHO i think I would rather use primo over deca and eq to keep the apitite strong over such a duration, however I think your cycle is balls to the wall

GOOD LUCK BRO

and yes clomid is fantastic, hcg is dope too, read up on pinnacles post cycle therapy thread its awsome. I searched for letrozole and there it was-


What are you going to use to block your aromatization???
Obviously you have no MPB in your family-

[branch]

You look shredded, I would like to see your arms at your sides to see what your dealing with as far as delts go.

At your age your freakin jaked.

I think the deca is a great idea, with all the muscle you will be adding I think the lubrication in your joints will be another positive contribution by that particular aas.

I would have to say however, GH might be a good idea in the future to keep your tendons appropriatly strong. Keep us posted .

I have to adimit IMHO i think I would rather use primo over deca and eq to keep the apitite strong over such a duration, however I think your cycle is balls to the wall

GOOD LUCK BRO

and yes clomid is fantastic, hcg is dope too, read up on pinnacles post cycle therapy thread its awsome. I searched for letrozole and there it was-


What are you going to use to block your aromatization???
Obviously you have no MPB in your family-

hears the only pics i got with my arms at my sides, the one was after i got done posin mad tired haha. thats my first time posing very exhausting for those who have not done it.

yea im def gonna use gh in the near future its just that that stuff aint the cheapest gear to jump on. but what else would u stack with g if used?

yea for this stack im gonna use hcg during then for pct im gonna use nolva clomid n rebound, that sound good to u , i might just reduce the amount too

weeks 1-4 anadrol 100mg
weeks 1-14 deca 400 mg and hcg dosage?
weeks 1-15 teste 500mg
weeks 17 pct

what do u think

[Mesomorphyl]

I think you are on your way... I would work on the chest more... including incline. Sick bro! good job. Can you hold off a few more years on cycling? If you have to get to 200lbs the first cycle you had should get you there... you obviously know diet and training.

Alot of people may get mad at me for saying it but the first one you posted looks good to me(specifically for you though) if you have to which I am suggesting against. But if you go against my suggestion I would take an AI through out like adex at .5ed and use hcg at least at the end as well as adding clomid.

[branch]

I think you are on your way... I would work on the chest more... including incline. Sick bro! good job. Can you hold off a few more years on cycling? If you have to get to 200lbs the first cycle you had should get you there... you obviously know diet and training.

Alot of people may get mad at me for saying it but the first one you posted looks good to me(specifically for you though) if you have to which I am suggesting against. But if you go against my suggestion I would take an AI through out like adex at .5ed and use hcg at least at the end as well as adding clomid.

aight thanks mesomorph yea my chest is my weakest area, but yea i think im gonna stick with the first stack cause i dont think i need that crazy ass stack nor do i think im ready for such an extreme stack

and yea im lookin for hcg now havin trouble but for my pct im gonna use clomid nolva and rebound what u think of that

[branch]

what u dont think i should use gear for a while? im already behind just got outta a yr of bein locked down so i gotta make up for it

[firmechicano831]

looking good bro, I wish you the best on your next cycle

[taiotosh7]

Don't do rebound, any pct alone already that has already been mentioned will blow rebound out of the water.....there is a reason why rebound is available otc and doesn't require a script, it will do nothing for you

[branch]

Don't do rebound, any pct alone already that has already been mentioned will blow rebound out of the water.....there is a reason why rebound is available otc and doesn't require a script, it will do nothing for you

yea i thought rebound was beat but quiet a few cats were suggesting it to me so the nolva n clomid pct is good then 500iu hcg during deca phase?

[taiotosh7]

during the deca phase? sorry I must be slow......I would run nolva and hcg for pct. Clomid gave me bad sides every time but if you've ran it before and liked it it's all good. I personally would run hcg at 500iu but I would highly advise you to research it a hell of a lot more and find what's best for you

[branch]

during the deca phase? sorry I must be slow......I would run nolva and hcg for pct. Clomid gave me bad sides every time but if you've ran it before and liked it it's all good. I personally would run hcg at 500iu but I would highly advise you to research it a hell of a lot more and find what's best for you

so ur sayin run nolva the whole 14 weeks of deca? ive never heard that b4.

from what i hear run hcg during the deca phase n save nolva n clomid for pct

[G-1000]

you look great bro. Nice and lean.

[BeefCakeStew]

so ur sayin run nolva the whole 14 weeks of deca? ive never heard that b4.

from what i hear run hcg during the deca phase n save nolva n clomid for pct

Though this wasn't addresed to me, let me clear this up.

It is really good to run nolvadex during cycle. It keeps the gyno away while on. 10mg/day should do the job. Nolva doesn't stop the effects of progesterone related gyno that can result from Deca. Cabergoline and B6 are used for that--usually not a problem so dont worry about it.

Use HCG 500iu E4D for the last six weeks of the cycle. Stop 48 hrs before you begin PCT. HCG will actually suppress the HTPA at the Hypothalumus and Pituitary axes, which is why you should stop before starting clomid and nolva.

[branch]

Though this wasn't addresed to me, let me clear this up.

It is really good to run nolvadex during cycle. It keeps the gyno away while on. 10mg/day should do the job. Nolva doesn't stop the effects of progesterone related gyno that can result from Deca. Cabergoline and B6 are used for that--usually not a problem so dont worry about it.

Use HCG 500iu E4D for the last six weeks of the cycle. Stop 48 hrs before you begin PCT. HCG will actually suppress the HTPA at the Hypothalumus and Pituitary axes, which is why you should stop before starting clomid and nolva.

yea thanks beef cake its just ive heard so many different ways to aid this cycle and this is a pretty serious cycle n i dont wanna put nemore serious damage on my body than i have to so im not sure who to listen too

[D-Money]

Props, you lookin swole homie!

[rise2gr8ness]

I think letro in your case would be best for keeping guy titties at bay, and the GH, should you actually get your hands on some should be run for at least six months and there are things like insulin you can use later on (way way way later on like after at least a years worth of research worth later on)
You look fantastic!! let me just say personally i think for the perfect physique a persons deltoids should be the widest parts of there body from end to end, its really hard to do but after I got them that wide people said i looked like a living super hero.




when it comes to pct here comes plan A:

Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
4 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
5 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
6 20mgs/day
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ight=letrozole

Here is plan B
Day1 300mg Clomid + 20mg Nolvadex
Day 2-11 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolvadex
Day12-21 50mg Clomid + 20mg Nolvadex
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=steroids+101

I have used plan B and love it , i personally think you should get your hands on a couple bottles of Test prop so you can run it beggining with your last shot of test E in week 15 through week 17, I mean how much better would it be to wait 3 days then administer PCT rather than work ur balls of and then wait 2 weeks to use PCT????


Exibit A:Steroid.....Time After Administration.....Clomid Length

Aratest...........................3 weeks........3 weeks
Anadrol50/Anapolan50........8-12 hours.....3 weeks
Deca Durobolan................3 weeks........4 weeks
Dianabol..........................4-8 hours.......3 weeks
Equipoise.........................17-21 days.....3 weeks
Finajet/Trenbolone............3 days...........3 weeks
Primobolan Depot..............10-14 days.....2 weeks
Sustanon.........................3 weeks........3 weeks
Test Cypionate.................2 weeks........3 weeks
Test Enthenate/Testoviron..2 weeks........3 weeks
Test Propionate.................3 days..........3 weeks
Test Suspension................4-8 hours......2 weeks
Winstrol...........................8-12 hours.....2 weeks

[goalseeker]

sick abs.. unreal... nice work bro...

[branch]

thanks your help guys.

u dont think runnin the hcg for 6months is a lil long considering its only a 15 week cycle

and thank you for the comments but im nowhere where i want to be, espically if i gotta keep up with the freaks nowadays

any more suggestions are greatly appreciated

[branch]

I think letro in your case would be best for keeping guy titties at bay, and the GH, should you actually get your hands on some should be run for at least six months and there are things like insulin you can use later on (way way way later on like after at least a years worth of research worth later on)
You look fantastic!! let me just say personally i think for the perfect physique a persons deltoids should be the widest parts of there body from end to end, its really hard to do but after I got them that wide people said i looked like a living super hero.




when it comes to pct here comes plan A:

Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
4 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
5 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
6 20mgs/day
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ight=letrozole

Here is plan B
Day1 300mg Clomid + 20mg Nolvadex
Day 2-11 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolvadex
Day12-21 50mg Clomid + 20mg Nolvadex
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=steroids+101

I have used plan B and love it , i personally think you should get your hands on a couple bottles of Test prop so you can run it beggining with your last shot of test E in week 15 through week 17, I mean how much better would it be to wait 3 days then administer PCT rather than work ur balls of and then wait 2 weeks to use PCT????


Exibit A:Steroid.....Time After Administration.....Clomid Length

Aratest...........................3 weeks........3 weeks
Anadrol50/Anapolan50........8-12 hours.....3 weeks
Deca Durobolan................3 weeks........4 weeks
Dianabol..........................4-8 hours.......3 weeks
Equipoise.........................17-21 days.....3 weeks
Finajet/Trenbolone............3 days...........3 weeks
Primobolan Depot..............10-14 days.....2 weeks
Sustanon.........................3 weeks........3 weeks
Test Cypionate.................2 weeks........3 weeks
Test Enthenate/Testoviron..2 weeks........3 weeks
Test Propionate.................3 days..........3 weeks
Test Suspension................4-8 hours......2 weeks
Winstrol...........................8-12 hours.....2 weeks

rise check this out says u dont really need lethro with nolva

http://*************.com/forum/stero...wales+protocol

[Testostack]

hey guys this is my first real big stack tell me what u think:

stats:
5'7
21 yrs old
178lbs
31' waist
42'chest
24' thighs
17 arms f
16 1/2 calves
14 4arm

im about 193 now tryin to get to 220 230 im gonna be going on a 9 month bulking phase to get ready for my first contest for next yr around this time, these pics were takin bout 2 weeks ago


Wk 1: 100mg Anadrol, 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 2: 100mg Anadrol, 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 3: 100mg Anadrol, 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 4: 100mg Anadrol, 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 5: 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 6: 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 7: 750mg Test E, 600mg Deca
Wk 8: 750mg Test E, 600 mg Deca
Wk 9: 750mg Test E, 600 mg Deca
Wk 10: 750mg Test E, 600 mg Deca
Wk 11: 750mg Test E, 600 mg Deca
Wk 12: 750mg Test E, 600 mg Deca
Wk 13: 750mg Test E
Wk 14: 750mg Test E
Wk 15: 750mg Test E
Wk 17: NOLVA

do you think the nolva will be enough for post therepy?

looking good bro!

[branch]

during the deca phase? sorry I must be slow......I would run nolva and hcg for pct. Clomid gave me bad sides every time but if you've ran it before and liked it it's all good. I personally would run hcg at 500iu but I would highly advise you to research it a hell of a lot more and find what's best for you

so just because it gave u bad side effects u dont use it nemore. do u use nething else in place of the clomid instead of the nolva n hcg.

my only side effects from clomid have been breakin out on my back a lil bit n blowin huge loads not so sure thats a side effect but fun to spray all over some chick

[taiotosh7]

Only hcg and nolva for me bro, clomid fuct with my emotions real bad not to mention the bacne....You ask me about hcg/nolva during your "deca phase", aren't you taking all your gear at once? I personally would start the hcg the last week that you run your gear....run hcg for the next 3 weeks then run your nolva at the end of the hcg

[Testostack]

so just because it gave u bad side effects u dont use it nemore. do u use nething else in place of the clomid instead of the nolva n hcg.

my only side effects from clomid have been breakin out on my back a lil bit n blowin huge loads not so sure thats a side effect but fun to spray all over some chick

Nice avy Branch by the way! would you mind pm me that ? thx?

[branch]

yea im gonna run the hcg for 6 weeks up to 2 weeks b4 i start using this pct stack:

nolva
dostinex
aromasin

is that a good pct stack for this cycle? or do i need more?

[Chipper Jones78]

I would grab some clomid too....

PS - Your looking bro, good on ya

Chip