4th cycle...1st on Tren Ace/Prop combo...

**Latino~Heat** · 07-05-2006, 10:18 AM

aight fellas, have 3 cycles down, 1st was Sust/Deca, 2nd-3rd was Test E and EQ ... now ive been hearing the awesome effects of Tren "along w/ sides" and now thinkin' about doing this cycle...just have questions though..
im 5'8 200lbs., 14%BF....
I wanna run Prop @ 100mg/day and Tren @ 75mg day...since both are short acting esters, what is the longest this cycle can be ran???
ive read, avg. is 6-8 wks, but I also wanna do Zambons "winny" at end of it and at least 4wks of Zams...
SO:

TEst Prop 100mg/day .... how many wks?
Tren Ace 75mg/day ....how many wks?
Winny 50mg/day "last 4 wks and up until PCT"

PCT
**NOte, money no issue...

L~H

**2.minutes** · 07-05-2006, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Latino~Heat

aight fellas, have 3 cycles down, 1st was Sust/Deca, 2nd-3rd was Test E and EQ ... now ive been hearing the awesome effects of Tren "along w/ sides" and now thinkin' about doing this cycle...just have questions though..
im 5'8 200lbs., 14%BF....
I wanna run Prop @ 100mg/day and Tren @ 75mg day...since both are short acting esters, what is the longest this cycle can be ran???
ive read, avg. is 6-8 wks, but I also wanna do Zambons "winny" at end of it and at least 4wks of Zams...
SO:

TEst Prop 100mg/day .... how many wks?
Tren Ace 75mg/day ....how many wks?
Winny 50mg/day "last 4 wks and up until PCT"

PCT
**NOte, money no issue...

L~H

something like this
prop 100 ed 1-6 wk
tren a 50-75 ed 1 -5 wk
winny 50 ed 1-6 wk (or masteron at 75 ed)

good lean mass cycle, cud go with tren e but that would have to be stoped at wk 4,

thats wut marcus300 helped me with, it might help ya

**taiboxa** · 07-05-2006, 11:51 AM

i would extend prop 2 weeks past last tren administration,
i would try to get 6-7 weeks of tren
i would run the win if its 50mg/ed 6 weeks counting backwards from the lsat day prior to pct

so ..
prop 1-8
tren 1-6
win 3-8

**Latino~Heat** · 07-05-2006, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

i would extend prop 2 weeks past last tren administration,
i would try to get 6-7 weeks of tren
i would run the win if its 50mg/ed 6 weeks counting backwards from the lsat day prior to pct

so ..
prop 1-8
tren 1-6
win 3-8

would PCT start day after winny/prop of wk 8 ending?

L~H

**Alpha-Male** · 07-05-2006, 02:36 PM

i'd go ten weeks on this, tren first six, winny last 4, prop all the way through...did something similar, minus the tren, best cutter ever...just finished my first tren run, and gotta tell ya, personally, didn't see any greater overall gains/effects than using eq in there, oh, except for the extremely massive puddles of sweat i'd wake up in every hour...yeah, that was fun. seriously though, you're gonna try it no matter what i'm sure, but if your diet and training is spot on, i don't think you'll be all that pleased...throw in a small amount of T3 too, with any cycle really...JMO

alpha

**Latino~Heat** · 07-05-2006, 09:53 PM

should I add liv52 and maybe Arimidex daily?

L~H

**anaBROLIC** · 07-05-2006, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Latino~Heat

would PCT start day after winny/prop of wk 8 ending?

L~H

3 days or so.

**Alpha-Male** · 07-06-2006, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Latino~Heat

should I add liv52 and maybe Arimidex daily?

L~H

personally, i always do proviron with any test (25mg/day), and maybe some b6 (or bromo if ya like) for prolactin sides from tren (that i never had a problem with, but keep on hand just in case)...i think the adex is too strong for what you'll be doing, but that's just my opinion...and i run milk thistle year round, with fantastic liver panels...and i take methotrexate for RA which is just as hepatotoxic as any oral steroid.

**Latino~Heat** · 07-07-2006, 07:52 PM

so If I was to do 50mg out of a 75mg cc, do I just draw up to .75cc?

L~H

**Roid Rage** · 07-07-2006, 09:02 PM

Guys, i have a few questions regarding this cycle...

1) Can the prop and tren not be run for 12 weeks???
-100mg of prop ED
-75mg of tren ED

2) Why is someone recommending the prop to continue for 2 weeks after the last tren shot?

3) Much B6 would you guys recommend to take during a cycle like this?

4) How much T3 would you throw in and for how long?

Thanks

RR

**Alpha-Male** · 07-08-2006, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Latino~Heat

so If I was to do 50mg out of a 75mg cc, do I just draw up to .75cc?

L~H

actually, 1cc = 75mg, so 1/3cc = 25mg, therefore 2/3cc = 50mg...but i don't think they have 1/3 markings, so it's kinda a guesstimate i 'spose...

to RoidRage (nice hijack btw

), j/k, anyhow...IMO, you shouldn't run tren much longer than 6 weeks, but it's mostly up to how well you're dealing with the sides...there are good recommendations in the tren profile for how much B6 (sorry, i don't use it, so i'm not the best person to ask)...and for me, 1 25mcg tablet of t3 is all i ever supplement with (you would need bloodwork to determine just how hard your levels were being supressed), but one pill should suffice, IMO.

**almostgone** · 07-08-2006, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Alpha-Male

actually, 1cc = 75mg, so 1/3cc = 25mg, therefore 2/3cc = 75mg...but i don't think they have 1/3 markings, so it's kinda a guesstimate i 'spose...

to RoidRage (nice hijack btw

), j/k, anyhow...IMO, you shouldn't run tren much longer than 6 weeks, but it's mostly up to how well you're dealing with the sides...there are good recommendations in the tren profile for how much B6 (sorry, i don't use it, so i'm not the best person to ask)...and for me, 1 25mcg tablet of t3 is all i ever supplement with (you would need bloodwork to determine just how hard your levels were being supressed), but one pill should suffice, IMO.

2/3cc would equal 50mg, not 75mg...and syringes are graduated in decimal divisions, so between .6cc and .7cc would get you close enough....

..Latino~Heat, I wouldn't run tren ace less than 8 weeks, nor more than 10...and personally I would run my prop 2 weeeks longer then the tren ace......It will ease you into PCT, especially your first time out...

AG

**Alpha-Male** · 07-08-2006, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by almostgone

2/3cc would equal 50mg, not 75mg...

AG

yeah, that was on my brain, just didn't type out that way, sorry LH...hey, at least i typed the first part right, but yes, that's exactly what i meant...good catch there...

and LH, why don't you decide, at week 6, whether or not you wanna stay on the tren...since this is your first time with it, assess your sides, cuz i didn't tolerate it very well, i mean, personally, it didn't turn out to be any better than anything else i've taken...guess that's cuz my diet's so clean...either way, as i said, you can run it longer, but you may not want to...i took baths all night, in my own sweat, real fun shit...

**Roid Rage** · 07-08-2006, 02:05 PM

lol alpha male... baths in your own sweat eh... how sexy, i bet your woman loved it... ohhhh yaaaa

Hmmm maybe i'll do that then...
-week 1-12 - prop 100mg ED
-week 1-10 - tren a 75g ED

Sounds good guys?

Yeah sorry for the HIJACK but it was totally related to this thread, so i figured i'd milk the action off it to get some of my questions answered heh!

RR

**Alpha-Male** · 07-08-2006, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Roid Rage

lol alpha male... baths in your own sweat eh... how sexy, i bet your woman loved it... ohhhh yaaaa

hey now, i don't swing that way (for free)...not that there's anything wrong with that...

oh, yeah, cycle looks good, have fun Mr. Pin Cushion (heh, it's why i stick to enanthate esters...i'm a sissy

)

**Roid Rage** · 07-08-2006, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Alpha-Male

hey now, i don't swing that way (for free)...not that there's anything wrong with that...

oh, yeah, cycle looks good, have fun Mr. Pin Cushion (heh, it's why i stick to enanthate esters...i'm a sissy

)

Haha... Sissy do steroids?! what the hell?!!!!!!

(just playing)

Actually, my first cycle was 80mg of prop ED with EQ (12 weeks long)... So picture that, my first cycle, was me sticking myself every day with a needle! But i did it!

-RR

**Tank75** · 07-08-2006, 07:34 PM

i'm working with test prop right now and i agree... it hurts. you may want to think of doing the prop every other day if it gets to be too much.

**Roid Rage** · 07-09-2006, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by Tank75

i'm working with test prop right now and i agree... it hurts. you may want to think of doing the prop every other day if it gets to be too much.

you talking to me? or L~H? I've done prop before for 12 weeks, ED... i'm fine with it, this isn't going to be my first time doing prop. And i think prop ED is best.

RR

**IBdmfkr** · 07-09-2006, 01:07 AM

I love prop...

That's all.

**Roid Rage** · 07-09-2006, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by Alpha-Male

there are good recommendations in the tren profile for how much B6 (sorry, i don't use it, so i'm not the best person to ask)...

I'm still trying to find out how much B6 i should be running with this cycle, i know you said check in the tren profile? Can you link me to it? I have no idea what tren profile you are talking about. I've read all about the steroids on the main page a while ago, in the profile section... So i'm assuming you are not talking about it being in there!

and IBdmfkr, well put! (

prop!)

-RR

**IBdmfkr** · 07-09-2006, 08:15 PM

100-200mg/day.. I prefer 200mg/day B6

**Roid Rage** · 07-09-2006, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

100-200mg/day.. I prefer 200mg/day B6

Thank you sir!

HHAHA look at the abs and arms on that hamster... HE PUTS ME TO SHAME!

RR

**IBdmfkr** · 07-09-2006, 08:17 PM

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199832

**Roid Rage** · 07-09-2006, 08:19 PM

Wonderful, thanks again!

**macktownmac** · 07-09-2006, 09:39 PM

im doing 100mg prop ED, weeks 1-12, 75mg Tren ED weeks 1-10, 50mg ED Winny Weeks 8-12.

i wouldnt wanna run anything longer

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