help plz for pct

[qwertyouyou]

hi
age:26 height:1.80m weight: 80 kg i ve been training from 3.5 years and i d like to have some gain. i did some research about steroid and i red the newbie cycle in your site so i d like to do this :

note: i split this cycle by 2 ( to be more safe)
Cycle 1:
1 – 10 Enan 250mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 5 mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

1-the problem i cant find L_dex here i this country where i live, so can i run
this cycle without L-dex ( nolvadex cant privent alone without L-dex
GYNO ) .

2-do i need to take HCG ingection , if i need plz tell me how.

3- i have some suplement named live protection can i use it. thx 4 any help

[qwertyouyou]

i found proviron what should i do ??????????

[Kale]

hi
age:26 height:1.80m weight: 80 kg i ve been training from 3.5 years and i d like to have some gain. i did some research about steroid and i red the newbie cycle in your site so i d like to do this :

note: i split this cycle by 2 ( to be more safe)
Cycle 1:
1 – 10 Enan 250mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 5 mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

1-the problem i cant find L_dex here i this country where i live, so can i run
this cycle without L-dex ( nolvadex cant privent alone without L-dex
GYNO ) .

Yes you can, in fact you dont need to run any at all, just have it on hand in case you get symptoms

2-do i need to take HCG ingection , if i need plz tell me how.

No, only need this if your balls start to shrink a lot

3- i have some suplement named live protection can i use it. thx 4 any help

Yes you can but your liver wont be affected by injectable Test

Answers above in bold

[qwertyouyou]

so final :
1-10 weeks 250 mg/wk
1-12 weeks (5 mg nolvadex) and will continue with the PCT

my PCT will be with clomid like this :
1st week : 2oomg day 1- 150 day 2 down to 100 mg till the end of the first week
2nd and 3rd week 50 mg ed
( i want to add 100mg of deca form week 3 till week 9 do u think its good and do i stay with 5mg nolvadex or more thx

[Kale]

so final :
1-10 weeks 250 mg/wk
1-12 weeks (5 mg nolvadex) and will continue with the PCT

my PCT will be with clomid like this :
1st week : 2oomg day 1- 150 day 2 down to 100 mg till the end of the first week
2nd and 3rd week 50 mg ed
( i want to add 100mg of deca form week 3 till week 9 do u think its good and do i stay with 5mg nolvadex or more thx

No.

wk 1-12 Nolvadex 10mg ED (not 5mg)
wk 1-10 Test E 500mg/ week shot 250mg on Mon and Thurs
wk 1-9 Deca 400mg/weel shot 200mg on Mon and Thur in same syringe as Test

PCT

Day 1-30 Clomid 100mg ED and 20mg Nolvadex

[qwertyouyou]

sorry kale i want to split your cycle by 2 ( not for untrust ) but u know i am the first time using ASS.
if i do 250 test E / week and 100 deca /week ( i know its a very low dose, next cycle i will do the dose normal bcoz i want to test my body with ASS )
i will split also the dose of NOLVADEX and CLOMID ( 5 mg nolvadex and 100 clomid ) or keep it the same 10mg and 100mg for 30 day .
thx..

[mamias20918756]

I hope ur diet is in check in the first place.
Nolva is used to prevent gyno probs by blocking estrogen, on the other hand l-dex or arimidex or letrozole does not block estrogen but eliminate it.
It's safer to run one of these drugs to avoid any estrogen rebound which can happen even after cycle, cause if you get along with nolvadex only you don't eliminate the possibility of a rebound.
I don't see any danger of gyno or other symptoms in the dosages you want to run, but this doesn't mean u should use this low dose of nolva. Just go with 10 mg ED.
I won't try to change ur mind regarding test and deca dosages, but after cycle u will realize that u should start with the recommented newbie cycle dosages.
First time i used AAS i made some great gains with 500mg test /week and 400mg Deca/week and i had almost no sides (just some water retention). On these dosages the possibility of sides exists but it's not something to worry about once u use your anti-e and your aromatase inhibitor.
Good luck

[qwertyouyou]

thx a lot i will start my on monday and i will keep in touch ...

look i will see my weight if it doesnt go up in the week 6 i will hit 500mg /week...
c u soon guys ...

[Kale]

thx a lot i will start my on monday and i will keep in touch ...

look i will see my weight if it doesnt go up in the week 6 i will hit 500mg /week...
c u soon guys ...

Thats not a good idea, the Test will take five weeks plus to start working. Just do 500mg a week from the beginning, I can assure yoiur your body will be fine

[qwertyouyou]

thx first
but i explain that i have only nolvadex , where i live i didnt find ( L-dex , arimidex or femara )
what you say if will ran 500 mg of test i need 10mg nolvadex ( that i have ) and 25 mg of L-dex ( i dont have ).

i dont know if i can ra 500mg enant and 100 deca with only 10mg nolvadex ED.. thx again 4 any help

[Kale]

thx first
but i explain that i have only nolvadex , where i live i didnt find ( L-dex , arimidex or femara )
what you say if will ran 500 mg of test i need 10mg nolvadex ( that i have ) and 25 mg of L-dex ( i dont have ).

i dont know if i can ra 500mg enant and 100 deca with only 10mg nolvadex ED.. thx again 4 any help

OK first of all you dont need to run L-dex or Nolvadex during your cycle, most people dont. They keep Nolvadex on hand in case they get side effects, but if you dont get side effects then there is no need to run it at all.

And also 100mg of Deca a week wont do anything, you have to run at least 300 to 400mg a week to get anything out of it IMO.

[mamias20918756]

OK first of all you dont need to run L-dex or Nolvadex during your cycle, most people dont. They keep Nolvadex on hand in case they get side effects, but if you dont get side effects then there is no need to run it at all.

And also 100mg of Deca a week wont do anything, you have to run at least 300 to 400mg a week to get anything out of it IMO.

Kale is totally right!
Just keep nolva in hand in case of gyno.
Also don't tapper ur dosages! that will make ur blood level go crazy causing more sides, u need to keep them stable.
You should go all the way till the end of ur cycle using the same dosage

[qwertyouyou]

thx kale
look i dont want to feel or to see side effect at all can i ran nolvadex 10mg ED anyway or it will do some side effect ..
anyway i meen ( 250 enant or 500 enanth with 200 deca or without )

thank you...

[qwertyouyou]

Kale is totally right!
Just keep nolva in hand in case of gyno.
Also don't tapper ur dosages! that will make ur blood level go crazy causing more sides, u need to keep them stable.
You should go all the way till the end of ur cycle using the same dosage

thx for your help also i will keep in mind that . i will ran the same dose from beginning till the end . but deca must stop before 1 week than test .

[qwertyouyou]

soory if i ask and ask and ask a lot bcoz its something new 4 me .!!!! and i want help

[mamias20918756]

soory if i ask and ask and ask a lot bcoz its something new 4 me .!!!! and i want help

No prob bro that's why we are here for.
Also what test are u going to use?
Test should be run 2 weeks more than deca...just in case.

[Kale]

thx kale
look i dont want to feel or to see side effect at all can i ran nolvadex 10mg ED anyway or it will do some side effect ..
anyway i meen ( 250 enant or 500 enanth with 200 deca or without )

thank you...

Yes it OK to run Nolvadex at 10mg ED if you want its entirely up to you.

[qwertyouyou]

ok i will start on monday and i ll keep i touch c u

[qwertyouyou]

sorry kale what is the best time to talke nolvadex . thx

[mamias20918756]

that's why i asked earlier what test u will be using..i wanted to give u some info on pct start times

[mamias20918756]

Ok u started a thread and now ur not replying
Anyway
for test e (which i believe u said ur gonna shoot) pct (nolva at 20mg) starts 3 weeks after last administration of test
ur pct should be run for about 3-4 weeks.
also u may want to run hcg with nolva..that's a good combo for pct.
Check out the pct section to get an idea of what a pct should look like.
find what seems better for u and follow it.
Good luck

[Kale]

sorry kale what is the best time to talke nolvadex . thx

Doesnt matter much just make sure its the same time each day. I do it first thing in the morning

[qwertyouyou]

thank you i will be in touch