beggining cycle + PCT questions

[mouse]

i havnt used steroids before, theres so much information out there and different ways to take steroids, which leads to my confusion. iv'e looked at countless web pages on steroid information, but theres only so much i can research before asking the experts.

i only want to do ONE cycle, low to medium dosage.. and thats it. i dont want to be mr olympia, i just want to gain some lean bulk.

Is stacking necessary or can i use sustanon 250 by itself?

As i said, i want to take it in a low dosage and im unsure about PCT drugs.. what to take, when to take it and in what quantity to match my cycle..


any help would be greatly appreciated..

[Kale]

Dude belive me you wont just stop at one cycle. Now before we give advice we need to know your age, weight, height, and workout experince

[Huckster]

Welcome-

Standard answer is
1)need your stats
2)run 500 Test E a/week only for your first cycle
3)have PCT ready

Best thing to do is a lot of research on this site and others about newbie cycles, look at the profiles of the AAS's. Decide what you think might be best for your situation. Post your possible cycle and ask for critiques from vets. Listen to these guys they know what's up.

But test only is the standard answer. Do research, develop a cycle you think is right for you and ask for critiques.

BTW, I just started my first cycle ever TODAY!

500 Test E week Week 1-10
40mg DBol/day Week 1-4
Proviron
Clomid-PCT

Good luck, do alot of research, ask questions after doing research.

[SMAN12b]

After you answer the above questions, we can give yoiu better advice. I will say the same as Kale stated, once you start, you won't want to just stop at one cycle. So no matter what you do , do it the safest way and the healthiest way. Get your information first and don't rush into doing it.

Sust is NOT the best compound to use for your first go around. It has 4 different esters that you dont' need to deal with. Test E or Test Cyp is a much better choice for your first time.

WELCOME TO AR

[Huckster]

To answer your question on PCT, look in the profiles section. Here is profile on Clomid. It talks about how to use it and at what dosages.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199849

There are a lot of threads for newbie cycles and first cycles. Do a search for 'newbie cycle' or 'first cycle', etc. There's a ton of info to absorb.

[mouse]

Australian
age: 19
height: 170cm
weight: 72kg


been training for about 3 years on and off, but consistantly. i feel ive reached a plateau in my gains and training. and with my body structure, muscle volume, and looking comparing my shape to my family i feel that i cant gain much more more mass naturally.

see thats what i mean theres so much contradiction with steroids, people say this is ideal, others say its not and so on. i cant gain a clear understanding about without asking you guys.

Also, Sus 250 is readily available to me through a friend so thats why im trying to work off that. my mates mum works for customs at sydney airport and she says they seize steriods all the time, so if i can avoid trying to import it i will.

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

one cycle will not give you gains you can keep forever, if thats waht you're thinking...Once you start, the cycles must continue for the gains to continue..your body cannot maintain an untanurall high muscle mass without unnatural means...the only thing is, you need to cycle wisely, with proper PCT and what not.

[Kale]

Man at that age and weight you are way to young to do steroids. Here read this


"What is the Right Age to Start Using Steroids?

By: Brandon Walsh
This article is being published in hopes of reaching some of the younger people, involved in our great sport of body building, reach their goals without making the great mistake of using steroids too early in their long lives. The problem with this is that most young bodybuilders (BBs) cannot grasp the concept of the future and how long the road ahead really is even with the use of steroids. How do you convince a 14 year old that it will take years before he can look like the Pro BB's in the magazines, and that he may never look like that even with all the drugs available in the world. Well that is what I hope to accomplish within this article.

At what age should you be, before you consider using steroids? This question is not as easily answered as you may think it is. You cannot randomly just pick an age and say that this is the point at which you can now start to consider using steroids.

Between the ages of 12 and 26 a male's hormone levels are on a steady rise until the age of 26. This is when these levels slowly start to decline until they are almost nonexistent by the ripe old age of 40.

When puberty starts in males at the age of 12 there is a huge flux in hormonal patterns in the body, which cause the growth of male characteristics, (deepening of the voice, growth of body hair, growth in height, etc.). These hormone levels increase by themselves so much that they can be compared to that of a mild steroid cycle. Therefore trying to add to what the body is doing on its own by adding in exogenous (outside) Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) is very counter productive.

Whenever any extra amount of AAS is added to the body, the body recognizes this extra level through a feedback loop in the human body known as the Hypothalamus. Once the Hypothalamus recognizes the increase in hormones which happens usually between 14 and 21 days, the body will shut off its own production of hormones until these levels decrease, along with increasing hormones to decrease these extra levels in the body (cortisone, estrogen). Cortisone and Estrogen are 2 hormones in the body that BBs do not need any extra. The easiest way to try to explain this without getting to complicated, is that the more AAS you put in your body, the more your body will try to lower those levels. When this happens BBs get all the side effects that are normally associated with AAS use, gynecomastia (growth of fatty tissue underneath the breasts in males), hair loss, kidney damage, liver damage, and high blood pressure, just to name a few).

Before you consider the use of AAS you should have already reached your genetic potential. What is your genetic potential? To figure this out you should first look at the weight, height and build of other members in your family. Is this exact, no, but it is somewhere to start. If every male on both sides of your family is approximately 5'7" and weighs between 150lbs and 170lbs and they are all bald by the age of 25, then it would be a good guess that you will also fall somewhere in those ranges by the time you stop growing. Now with working out and eating correctly for 4 years lets say, you would be able to put on 15 or more pounds of muscle tissue (that would mean you now weigh 165-185 lbs.). This is what your genetic potential would be. Now if you started to use steroids at that point, 165-185 lbs you may be able to put on another 15-20 lbs (180-200lbs). If you had started using when you were 125 lbs., and gained 25lbs through the use of steroids, you would still be well short of what you could have gotten naturally (150lbs as compared to 180-200lbs), and now it will be much harder to try to gain another 30-40lbs.

So for a starting point lets say that you need to be at least 18 years of age before you consider using steroids. Now that we have a starting point, lets look at a few other factors that should be considered. Steroids DO NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM makes up for a good diet and workout program. Most people who use AAS feel that this is the time where they can be a little more relaxed in their workouts and diet. Actually this is when they should be even more strict. So before you can think of using at the age of 18, you will need 3 more solid years of good training and eating habits. Minor changes in diet and workouts can result in great gains in mass and muscle as well as strength.

No matter how much assistance you get from AAS, without proper nutrition and workouts you will be lucky to have any gains at all, let alone keep them after the cycle is over. The goal of using any substance, legal or not should be that after you stop using it you don't loose all of that which you have fought to get. What would be the point of spending all that money (steroids are not free) to gain that 30lbs when you will loose it after the cycle is over anyway?

So the better question to ask instead of when can I take steroids, should be, what can I do to get all that I can out of my body without needing steroids?. In order to calculate my progress, I need to talk with my family and doctors, before I try to make a choice like that.

We will start with the age range of 14-16; this is when your hormones are raging. Your body is in full swing of making the best steroids that you can ever get, and it does all this without you even needing to do a single thing. At this point you should start with a solid exercise plan and a basic supplement plan in addition to the regular food that you need to be eating on a regular basis.

For workouts focus on the basic compound movements (Bench Press, Squats, Deadlifts, Barbell Curls, etc.) Working out 4 days a week with at least 8 hours of sleep a night is a great start. Add to that the extra protein that you should be taking and you will definitely start seeing a difference in your body. As for supplements, at this point all I would suggest is a good Meal Replacement Shake, multi-vitamin and creatine. Any shake will work, just add 2 shakes a day to the 3 solid meals that you should already be eating. Creatine has more benefits then I could start to explain in this article, but what I can say is that it will help your strength, muscle, speed, and recovery without any negative side effects.

By the age of 16-18 you will have had most of your growth spurts and you will be ready to change a few more things in your overall plan. You workouts can become a little more specialized as you start using different exercises. As for your nutrition program, all that I would think of adding now would be something such as extra glutamine before bed and maybe a ZMA supplement. You still don?t want to take anything that would alter what your body is doing on its own, so using ZMA and glutamine is just what you need.

Somewhere between 18 and 21 you should be just about done growing, so what should you do differently now? Add more protein! You should be getting at the very least, your body weight in grams of protein per day! And that?s at the very least! By now you will have been working out consistently for quite a while and should know your body very well. What will work and what won?t work should be old news. There isn?t really anything new to add to what is already a great program, other than Tribulus and maybe a pre-workout supplement such as Ultimate Orange. After this point, you can start to consider the use of steroids. What about them? Are they as terrible as everyone seems to think they are? As long as they are used correctly, I don?t think so. When considering their use, I feel that orals should be used as late as possible. These are most harmful on the body and therefore should not be used for a very long time.

Another thing to consider, other than the side effects I have already spoken of, is your sex drive. Some AAS will make your sex drive almost nonexistent and will have a big effect on your sperm count. These drugs in particular should try to be avoided. That leaves mild anabolics. Although they are the safest to use, they are expensive, illegal, and require the use of a needle. Which most first time users do not want to use.

I told you that this is not something that should be passed off very easily; you shouldn?t have to make the mistakes that most of us make by using steroids to early in your life. If used correctly, I think they are fine, but look at what it takes in order to use them correctly. Have you been working out for 5 years straight without more the 2 weeks off every 6 weeks? Do you eat every 2-3 hours, 6 times a day without missing a meal? Do you get 8 hours of sleep every night? This is something that can have a huge effect on your body for the rest of your life, so don?t make that choice in 10 minutes. Good luck and keep growing.

Designer Labs President / CEO *

[Action Jackson]

Hello I am new to the forum and new to steroids. I have never cycled but I am veary interested. Could some one with experence please help my, with all the different steroids I dont know witch is best for me if there is a best or not? Here are my goals I way about 160 170 and I would like to get up to
210 or 215 so I need to bulk but I dont want to look fat I want to get that
lean cut look. Are there any steroids that can do that, or will I have to stack? I'm think about D Bol and Deka, like I said I dont know any advice would be
greatly apperated.

Please forgive my spelling thanks

[Kale]

Hello I am new to the forum and new to steroids. I have never cycled but I am veary interested. Could some one with experence please help my, with all the different steroids I dont know witch is best for me if there is a best or not? Here are my goals I way about 160 170 and I would like to get up to
210 or 215 so I need to bulk but I dont want to look fat I want to get that
lean cut look. Are there any steroids that can do that, or will I have to stack? I'm think about D Bol and Deka, like I said I dont know any advice would be
greatly apperated.

Please forgive my spelling thanks

Mate welcome to the board. You need to start your ownt thread. We can help you better that way

[SMAN12b]

Australian
age: 19
height: 170cm
weight: 72kg


been training for about 3 years on and off, but consistantly. i feel ive reached a plateau in my gains and training. and with my body structure, muscle volume, and looking comparing my shape to my family i feel that i cant gain much more more mass naturally.

see thats what i mean theres so much contradiction with steroids, people say this is ideal, others say its not and so on. i cant gain a clear understanding about without asking you guys.

Also, Sus 250 is readily available to me through a friend so thats why im trying to work off that. my mates mum works for customs at sydney airport and she says they seize steriods all the time, so if i can avoid trying to import it i will.

There is NO way you are ready or should be doing AAS at your age. The only plateau you reached is due to your lack of PROPER training. AAS will NOT make up for lack of diet or training.
At 19 you have plenty of natural hormones in your body to make great gains if you do it the right way!!

You got about 6 years before you even touch AAS. I suggest you use those years to research everything you need to know so that you can do this as safe as possible !!