Advice on 1st cycle

[1stTimePlayer]

I am a rookie at this and am looking to start a cycle. I was thinking of doing 2IU's of Jinotropin ED and a shot of both Andropen 275 and Equipoise E3D or so. Any thoughts or advice would be GREATLY appreciated because like I said, the only thing I know about steroids is what I've read online so far.

[SMAN12b]

Well you came to the right place. WELCOME TO AR

In order to give advice, we need yoru complete stats.
Age, height, weight, BF%, food intake, training, GOALS for using AAS, Knowledge of PCT

I would suggest you research here for a few months before doing anything. The proposed compounds you are looking at are not the best way to go for a first timer.

HGH @ 2iu/d is going to do about nothing for you
HGH shoudl be ran several months prior to adding AAS I wouldn't run less than 4ius/day and for no less than 6 months

As far as AAS goes, first time should be just a single ester testosterone like Test E or Cyp so that you learn what your body is reacting to. If you use other compounds you will have no idea what is doing what to your body.

Answer the questions i gave and we can help further

[GetBigOrGetPussTryin]

You have many options.

BASED ON ALL OF MY EXPERIENCE:

Testosterone Propionate/Winstrol(suspension) is the PERFECT beginner stack.

GREAT, SOLID, LEAN gains, with virtually no side effects.

Add some Aromasin at 20mgs ED.

..Golden....


[R]

[SMAN12b]

You have many options.

BASED ON ALL OF MY EXPERIENCE:

Testosterone Propionate/Winstrol(suspension) is the PERFECT beginner stack.

GREAT, SOLID, LEAN gains, with virtually no side effects.

Add some Aromasin at 20mgs ED.

..Golden....


[R]

DO NOT listen to this person he is a BANNED former member

all he speaks is

[chest6]

DO NOT listen to this person he is a BANNED former member

all he speaks is

Sure, banned former member..but whats wrong with the cycle he just proposed for a beginner that wants to build lean mass?

[SMAN12b]

prop adn winny for a beginner??? dont' think so ed shots and he is ONLY 20

[GetBigOrGetPussTryin]

prop adn winny for a beginner??? dont' think so ed shots and he is ONLY 20

Number one--

He COULD even use the ORAL WINSTROL since I did not consider this variable that you bring up.

Conditioning yourself to the frequent injections takes no time at all.

Prop has LESS sides than any other ESTER,

WINSTROL is a GREAT drug for LEAN MASS, and for STRENGTH.

And as for him being ONLY 20--woulD ANY cycle be right?

[R]

[SMAN12b]

I would go a test only for his first

[SMAN12b]

A single ester test so that his body learns how it reacts to just one compoud at at tkme adn add on from there

[soccer#3]

those veins on ur chest are sick!

[*Narkissos*]

You have many options.

BASED ON ALL OF MY EXPERIENCE:

Testosterone Propionate/Winstrol(suspension) is the PERFECT beginner stack.

GREAT, SOLID, LEAN gains, with virtually no side effects.

Add some Aromasin at 20mgs ED.

..Golden....


[R]

I agree... I'm still banning your ass tho.

No hard feelings

Nark

[RA]

No way I would tell a first timer to use prop. cyp or e would be better.

[aadrenaline]

I agree... I'm still banning your ass tho.

No hard feelings

Nark

LMAO...but hes come along way from preeching his steroids ruin lives and will kill you to recommending it BWAHAHA

[chest6]

prop adn winny for a beginner??? dont' think so ed shots and he is ONLY 20

where does it say 20? Did I miss something?

[1stTimePlayer]

Well you came to the right place. WELCOME TO AR

In order to give advice, we need yoru complete stats.
Age, height, weight, BF%, food intake, training, GOALS for using AAS, Knowledge of PCT

I would suggest you research here for a few months before doing anything. The proposed compounds you are looking at are not the best way to go for a first timer.

HGH @ 2iu/d is going to do about nothing for you
HGH shoudl be ran several months prior to adding AAS I wouldn't run less than 4ius/day and for no less than 6 months

As far as AAS goes, first time should be just a single ester testosterone like Test E or Cyp so that you learn what your body is reacting to. If you use other compounds you will have no idea what is doing what to your body.

Answer the questions i gave and we can help further

Thanks for all he replies already...I'm 25, 6'4", 210lbs, 10% body fat, train about 5 days a week, and my goal is to put on lean mass.

[aadrenaline]

where does it say 20? Did I miss something?

yeah i missed that too...

but 2iu's of gh a day could be fine for someone older say 40+
i mean it wont make them big, but could aid with joints, fat loss, feel younger..
although this is a much debated subject dosing HGH, its different for everybody.

[aadrenaline]

Thanks for all he replies already...I'm 25, 6'4", 210lbs, 10% body fat, train about 5 days a week, and my goal is to put on lean mass.

at 25yo i would up the GH start at like say 2 or 3 a day and work up to 4 or 5 and then adjust from there a month or two in to where you feel it works best for you.

[chest6]

yeah i missed that too...

but 2iu's of gh a day could be fine for someone older say 40+
i mean it wont make them big, but could aid with joints, fat loss, feel younger..
although this is a much debated subject dosing HGH, its different for everybody.

Yeah at 20 it really wouldnt do shit. Although he said he is 25.

I for one think you could gain more naturally (the original thread poster) and come to aas when you have reached your natural potential..

[1stTimePlayer]

Yeah at 20 it really wouldnt do shit. Although he said he is 25.

I for one think you could gain more naturally (the original thread poster) and come to aas when you have reached your natural potential..

I'm not sure what my natural potential is but I have been pretty much the same size and weight since I was 19. If anything, I've put on a bit more fat around my stomach but gained nothing in muscle mass. You might be right though. Maybe there is a problem with my training or some other aspect if I can't get past this plateau and I should figure that out before I start getting into using something.