cycle for an mma fighter...

[dreuxscott1]

hi ive been training in jiu jitsu and kickboxing for a few years now and im getting ready to give fighting a shot...yes i know they test but i will worry about that later..what im wondering is what would be the best cycle for me given my sport...ive done 3 cycles in the past...1 anavar only, 1 tbol only and my last cycle which was about 5 months ago was test prop and winny...i felt good on the prop and winny while training but i wanna know what would be the best for me to take...im 23, 5'10 215 right now...been working out since highschool..i wanna get down to fight at 185 or possibly 170..185 is my goal right now but depending how my body feels at 185 i will make the decision to either stay or drop down some more...any feedback would be great...

[SMAN12b]

well for what you want, all you need to do is head over to the diet forum. you dont' need any AAS to get down to 185. a solid cutting diet will do that in no time at all and you will retain all your muscle if yoiu have the disipline to do it
good luck

[demirsteel]

In my mind you have to use EPO, Masteron, Halotestin and Winstrol.

[thee12nv]

So what type of testing does UFc do. I mean seriously look at kent shamrock and some of the others...t hey have to be on the gear

[rar1015]

Im pretty sure the ufc only tests fighters before a championship bout.

[dreuxscott1]

you know i think ufc does random testing just like other sports do...but im not quite at that level yet....i know i have to switch up my diet to lose the weight and thats exactly what im doing...but i want to take someone also while i do everything...im not really familiar with EPO, Masteron, Halotestin.....anyone have any insite on these??

[dreuxscott1]

ok i did alittle reading about all the different steroids...if i were to do a cycle with epo, masteron, halosestin, winny and test prop..how much should i take of each..hold long etc...is this too many substances to take in one cycle..if you guys had to break it up what would the ideal cycle be given all the substances i listed

[Hellmaskbanned]

ok i did alittle reading about all the different steroids...if i were to do a cycle with epo, masteron, halosestin, winny and test prop..how much should i take of each..hold long etc...is this too many substances to take in one cycle..if you guys had to break it up what would the ideal cycle be given all the substances i listed

If you researched them you should know what dose and how long to take them.

I think you should research everything and decide for YOURSELF what is right for you to take and put into YOUR BODY. Not just take one persons opinion and do it.

[dreuxscott1]

well theres always recommended dosages on the profiles but i wasnt sure if you could take all these at once...i was just asking if anyone had experience with taking all these and what kind of dosages and times they took each for...id rather take advice from someone whos actually taken these instead of someone whos researched alot about it...

[k@m NYC]

IMO.. do anavar since you want to lose weight/fat and get strength/muscle out of it with a good diet of course. You will also keep alot of the gains.

[mmawarrior]

Very few organizations, particularly at the club level, do any sort of testing. Even many large scale bouts (ex. Pride) do not test, although this is changing. You'll know if they are testing in smaller scale bouts. It is very easy to find out.

I fought the first week in July and won by submission. I ran Halo for 30 days at 30 mg a day, split in 2 doses. Strength gains were ****in insane and I didn't gain any weight. Halo is the shit. I was so aggressive, but not in an out of control way.

Run some liver protection with it and you'll be golden.

[Gunns420]

This is my first cycle and this is the combination I am using. I'm using 500mg per week of the test and 150mg per week of the winny. It says you plan to shoot the winny everyday? I don't know if you understand the pain associated with injecting Winny. You will not shoot it everyday. The combination along with my diet is greatly helping out- I am trying to decrease b.f.% while increasing muscle mass which according to some on here is impossible. I have only been on the cycle & diet for 2 weeks, but everything is going great,except for the Winny injection pain.

[one8nine]

stay away from winny- its hell on your joints

and when lookign into tren it looks good at first but will DESTROY YOUR ENDURANCE


http://steroid.com/Anavar.php

http://steroid.com/Cheque-Drops.php

http://steroid.com/Clenbuterol.php

http://steroid.com/Durabolin.php

http://steroid.com/Equipoise.php (for the endurance)

http://steroid.com/Halotestin.php

http://steroid.com/Masteron.php

http://steroid.com/Testosterone-Propionate.php

[trashydiva24]

i'm training MMA and on Anavar - you have to worry about endurance... some AAS will thrash your cardio... you don't wanna gas after the first round!!!! it sounds like you need to do some major conditioning... i'm in the same boat - good luck

[one8nine]

ok i did alittle reading about all the different steroids...if i were to do a cycle with epo, masteron, halosestin, winny and test prop..how much should i take of each..hold long etc...is this too many substances to take in one cycle..if you guys had to break it up what would the ideal cycle be given all the substances i listed

you dont need all that
i suggest
test prop@ 75-100mg ed
halo@ 30-50mg ed

you decide the length
and make sure you learn about pct before you start and have it on hand before you start using.

EDIT: LOOK UP WINNY it is the worst thing for your joints IMO, not good at all for mma

[dreuxscott1]

ive already dont a cycle of test prop and winny before...didnt have a problem with it considering i was doing jiu jitsu full time..so i figure my body can handle it while training...and i was taking nolva and ldex with on cycle then did some clomid after along with nolva so my pct is fine, i have all those on my at all times...im curious about epo...it sounds like a great thing...as far as prop going i will probably just do again 150mg eod and like 50mg ed of winny...just trying to figure out how much to take of everything else..ill do halo i guess at 30mg ed...but how long should i take that and when during the cycle should i take that...honestly it is too dangerous to take test,winn,epo,halo and masteron at the same time??

[one8nine]

ive already dont a cycle of test prop and winny before...didnt have a problem with it considering i was doing jiu jitsu full time..so i figure my body can handle it while training...and i was taking nolva and ldex with on cycle then did some clomid after along with nolva so my pct is fine, i have all those on my at all times...im curious about epo...it sounds like a great thing...as far as prop going i will probably just do again 150mg eod and like 50mg ed of winny...just trying to figure out how much to take of everything else..ill do halo i guess at 30mg ed...but how long should i take that and when during the cycle should i take that...honestly it is too dangerous to take test,winn,epo,halo and masteron at the same time??

i personally dont think its dangerous if doses are low (dont hold it against me if you die though) cause i have seen MUCH worse.

halo and winny are both 17aa so it might be better to leave one of them out, halo being better for your goals i would say leave winny out, not because i dont like it for joints but because a pair of 17aa could be hard on the liver. plus you can use 1/2 the dose of halo to be effective as a dose of winny.

i dont believe in all of this hepotoxicity stuff, i mean i think its real but not as bad as all thee sites say. i believe you could do 8-10 weeks of halo @30mg, but not if you put them both together. if you are dead set on using halo and winny you could do something like this

1-10 prop
1-5halo
6-10winny
1-2 epo, maybe some epo in the last week
1-10 mast

you could get away with it but i dont think its worth the rist. do you understant what 17aa is?

another option other than epo if you maybe want is eq (boldenone). this will increase reb blood count and also help you put on lean mass etc. it has a long detection time if you get the longer ester version of it so if you are worried about testing stick with short ester boldenone acetate or just go with epo.

[one8nine]

just to throw it out there my next cycle is going to be prop, durabolin, masteron and halo to prepare for my wrestling season

possibly anadrol but i dont know

[dreuxscott1]

lol yes i know what 17aa is...on winny i just took alot of milk thistle and if i do both winny and halo i will add something to the milk thistle.. tell me what you think of this cycle
wks 1-12 test prop at 150mg eod
wks 1-6 halo at 30mg ed
wks 7-12 winny at 50mg ed
wks 1-12 mast at 150mg eod
wks 1-2 epo 1000iu ed
also im not familiar with what 1000iu converts to as like mg or g...so if someone could just let me know that would be great..also could i do a shot of epo,test and mast at the same time?? also what kinda of anti-e's and what not should i be taking during this cycle and after...thanks a bunch for all the help guys

[one8nine]

lol yes i know what 17aa is...on winny i just took alot of milk thistle and if i do both winny and halo i will add something to the milk thistle.. tell me what you think of this cycle
wks 1-12 test prop at 150mg eod
wks 1-6 halo at 30mg ed
wks 7-12 winny at 50mg ed
wks 1-12 mast at 150mg eod
wks 1-2 epo 1000iu ed
also im not familiar with what 1000iu converts to as like mg or g...so if someone could just let me know that would be great..also could i do a shot of epo,test and mast at the same time?? also what kinda of anti-e's and what not should i be taking during this cycle and after...thanks a bunch for all the help guys

sorry didnt mean to insult you about the 17aa just checking so i could let you know if you didnt know just trying to help dont take it wrong

looks good (i still dont like the winny though )

i dont know about how epo comes but let me tell you about how hcg works and i assume its the same
hcg comes in a vial of poder labeled 5000iu and then you add 1cc of water solution they provide to it. then lets say you wanted 500iu ED, you could take a slin syringe and fill it to the 10 mark (which is 1/10 of a cc)
i assume epo is the same dont worry about converting it to mg

masteron IS an anti e im guessing you didnt read the profile on it then look up on my first post and click the link that has masteron as the last word and read up on what yorue gonna use

yes you can shoot them all in the same shot. but if you are doing EOD shots that MAY BE 4cc at a time (just guessing) depending on how your gear is dosed. if it is that much gear i say do 2cc every day (just an example)

as for anti e after cycle i say liquidex or armidex or proviron
plus nolva and clomid

[dreuxscott1]

arent u not supposed to mix clomid and ldex??

[one8nine]

some people say dont mix ai and serm but then again lots of experienced peopel DO IT WITH GREAT RESULT. also the sponsor of this board, anthony roberts, who wrote a big book suggest ai serm vitamin e and hcg for pct i believe those are the 4