I am not sure how it happened, it happened after the show for sure, cause i was fine getting ready and even when i was depleted i felt great...then i came back from the show and went on vacation for a week and was good, didnt train at all....then like 2 weeks after the show i went to the gym and it hurt to bench a bit, then i tried training arms the next day and the 25lbs crippled me....
Doc never gave me anything but advice to take time off..and i agree i can probably handle it and i really dont mind to much, i go e3d and train legs heavy and abs eod so i am still there, and who doesnt need bigger legs???

It just sucks, i hate the feeling of not training,
and i am feeling small, but i know it will do me good, so i am just hiding in my house till i start training again...adn i will be taking it very slow when i do get back...
Been icing and heating it all day, also taking a lot of ibuprophen to help and it seems to be helping, I am supposed to be starting a cycle of GH soon so maybe that will hellp a bit, and winny kills my joints but i had been of winny for like 3 weeks when this happened, and i have never had the problem before from winny, but i dunno, i am lost here...
I will loko into that bracelet for sure, and my girlfriend is a massge therapist and said active realese is not the best thing for it, she has been treating it the way she thinks is best and i trust her 100%...and to be honest she has treated it twice now and i actually feel a bit of a difference, nothing great but its a start...
Thanks for all the concern and advice guys, it is appreciated....WEBB