Promagnon 25....anyone heard of it?

[97stalliongt]

I'm a newb weight lifter and will be getting back in the gym soon. I'm 5'11" 145 so i have a lot of natural gains to make, i know. I'm thinking about taking some promagnon 25 during the first month to try to get a boost on my gains. after 6 mos of working like crazy i want to go on a small cycle. here it is

Wk 1-2 400mg Test Enth.
Wk 3-8 300mg Test Enth
Wk 9-10 200mg Test Enth

Haven't figured out my PCT dosages yet but I think i want to run hcg throughout the cycle and AIFM, clomid, novaldex after the cycle. what do ya'll think?

will i see any significant gains from the promagnon? would i need a pct for that alone?

also, will i see big gains from the test e cycle?

[BajanBastard]

You know promagnon is a steroid right? It's a steroid called clostabol with an added methyl-group. I bit on the weak side but i'd still advice you to not to use drugs so early in the game. Your call.

[97stalliongt]

You know promagnon is a steroid right? It's a steroid called clostabol with an added methyl-group. I bit on the weak side but i'd still advice you to not to use drugs so early in the game. Your call.

i understand. how long should i work natural until i take something like that, a weaker steroid. I am going to be taking in 3000+ cals a day, protein like crazy, and try to put 2hrs in the gym 4-5 days a week, depending on rest needed.

how long should i wait even for a weaker roid

[SMAN12b]

First off, WELCOME TO AR

How old are you? I would say at 5'11" and only 145, you have a few years of natural training and getting you diet in check before you add to that mix the use of AAS.

[97stalliongt]

First off, WELCOME TO AR

How old are you? I would say at 5'11" and only 145, you have a few years of natural training and getting you diet in check before you add to that mix the use of AAS.

I'm 22. Metabolism is at lightspeed, but i could probably take in a few more cals and protein a day. I am going natural for a while...creatine, protein, glutamine, etc. and see how much gains i can get. I'm gonna try to get up to 155 asap and then think about aas. thanks for the advice though

[SMAN12b]

I'm 22. Metabolism is at lightspeed, but i could probably take in a few more cals and protein a day. I am going natural for a while...creatine, protein, glutamine, etc. and see how much gains i can get. I'm gonna try to get up to 155 asap and then think about aas. thanks for the advice though

Well, just my opinion, but I would wait at least until you are almost at 200 before using.
If your diet isn't correct to gain weight now, the AAS will go to waste, because your diet has to be at 110% while on if you plan on gaining and keeping your gains.

Do you eat 6-8 meals a day one every 2.5-3 hours apart?
If your metabolism is that high, you will need to start increasing your calories slowly each week until you start to gain
also you have to train heavy to grow big.

Check out the diet forum for bulking diets and then the training forum too.

Seriously I would wait a solid 3 years before using. I know that is hard, but if you get everything else in line just think of the solid base you will have to grow from !!

Good Luck

[97stalliongt]

Well, just my opinion, but I would wait at least until you are almost at 200 before using.
If your diet isn't correct to gain weight now, the AAS will go to waste, because your diet has to be at 110% while on if you plan on gaining and keeping your gains.

Do you eat 6-8 meals a day one every 2.5-3 hours apart?
If your metabolism is that high, you will need to start increasing your calories slowly each week until you start to gain
also you have to train heavy to grow big.

Check out the diet forum for bulking diets and then the training forum too.

Seriously I would wait a solid 3 years before using. I know that is hard, but if you get everything else in line just think of the solid base you will have to grow from !!

Good Luck

i'll check out those forums...thanks and i think i'll stay away from the aas for a while and see what a good diet and training can do for me....thanks!

[Pillbass]

Yeah bussy life is a long tripp no need to hurry, there is plenty of time plus why put up with the sides if u can grow without AAS.

[97stalliongt]

Will I need a PCT after the promagnon? I've heard it's weak and yields very few sides...I'm gonna go with milk thistle just to make sure the liver stays healthy...anything else i should need?

[Standard01]

I'm confused. I thought you just said you were going to stay away from AAS. Promagnon is an AAS. If you choose to do the cycle you will need a PCT. I'd really advise you to build a more solid foundation without any hormones.

[thebrakes]

You know promagnon is a steroid right? It's a steroid called clostabol with an added methyl-group. I bit on the weak side but i'd still advice you to not to use drugs so early in the game. Your call.

not quite. clostebol, aka 4-chloro-test with a 17a methyl would be turinabol. promagnon is a close relative of tbol, with a 3-ethyl at some position. very close to tbol, though.

still, NO 145 pounder should juice. it's way too easy to gain naturally when you're that light.

[BigSwol]

I agree with the other bros here, you got lots of room for natural gains...and we all know how tuf it is too see dudes on gear getting all the feaky size and strength, but you should just stick to creatine, glutamine and some protein powder. I did it for a long time o'natural, almost 10yrs, when I started I was 145 and naturally got to 185-190. Then I started playin with prohormones and prosteroids, and real steroids. All in all though promag is only gonna yield 5-6lbs, would you need pct maybe some otc stuff like nolva xt or something, you shouldn't need anything more. Your test cycle is a little off do some research on the topic, I don't suggest you alter your doeses the way you have listed. There is plenty of info on cycles just do a serch on the subject. Good luck

BigSwol

[97stalliongt]

I agree with the other bros here, you got lots of room for natural gains...and we all know how tuf it is too see dudes on gear getting all the feaky size and strength, but you should just stick to creatine, glutamine and some protein powder. I did it for a long time o'natural, almost 10yrs, when I started I was 145 and naturally got to 185-190. Then I started playin with prohormones and prosteroids, and real steroids. All in all though promag is only gonna yield 5-6lbs, would you need pct maybe some otc stuff like nolva xt or something, you shouldn't need anything more. Your test cycle is a little off do some research on the topic, I don't suggest you alter your doeses the way you have listed. There is plenty of info on cycles just do a serch on the subject. Good luck

BigSwol

You are right, it is hard to see people getting nasty gains quick and getting ripped. Apparently I am a very impatient person. Are you guys telling me not to use gear right now because there is so much room to gain it's no use or because it could be dangerous at my current size. I just read mudman's 'newbie's first cycle' and that has made me alter my first cycle a bit. BUT, since you guys say that i could have some good gains naturally w/ a good diet and supplements... i'm gonna keep doing my research, keep asking questions, and eventually i will know when i'm ready

[SMAN12b]

Research this: Read . It may help you understand a bit why we would like to see you wait for YOUR benifit not ours !!!


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