ok, dumb question.. need to explain to my brother, plz help..

[Tjelle]

can anyone sum up why not to use deca without test. I know its dumb but plz..
thx..

[thestudent]

If he likes to have sex he will want test in the cycle. Enough said.

[Hellmaskbanned]

could experience a limp noodle.
How old is your brother?

[Tjelle]

tahnxs folks btw my brothers 18

[RA]

Should not be using aas right now anyway.

[RA]

Plenty of threads on why a young guy like that should not use..

[one8nine]

i started when i was 17, 6 years ago and thus far i have no regrets. i could have made more gains from where i was naturally but that doesnt mean that i regret using early in the game. im not saying its for everyone but i am saying that im still alive with no regrets. 18 is okay IN MY OPINION.

but the deca only thing.. deca supresses your testosterone production.. he will be a man full of lots of deca for building muscles but next to zero testosterone. there are things in your body that rely on testosterone its part of being human even girls need it, and without it things COULD POSSIBLY go wrong. the most common one being penis not working and depression.

some people love deca only cycles but you just have to ask if its worth the risk.. it couldnt hurt to add even just a little test in there

[RA]

i started when i was 17, 6 years ago and thus far i have no regrets. i could have made more gains from where i was naturally but that doesnt mean that i regret using early in the game. im not saying its for everyone but i am saying that im still alive with no regrets. 18 is okay IN MY OPINION.

but the deca only thing.. deca supresses your testosterone production.. he will be a man full of lots of deca for building muscles but next to zero testosterone. there are things in your body that rely on testosterone its part of being human even girls need it, and without it things COULD go wrong. the most common one being penis not working and depression.

Thats great bro. Talk up using at 17..

[Hellmaskbanned]

i started when i was 17, 6 years ago and thus far i have no regrets. i could have made more gains from where i was naturally but that doesnt mean that i regret using early in the game. im not saying its for everyone but i am saying that im still alive with no regrets. 18 is okay IN MY OPINION.

but the deca only thing.. deca supresses your testosterone production.. he will be a man full of lots of deca for building muscles but next to zero testosterone. there are things in your body that rely on testosterone its part of being human even girls need it, and without it things COULD go wrong. the most common one being penis not working and depression.

After one injection of deca 200mgs+ his natty test will be completely SHUTDOWN.

Deca is harder than test in this way....Test it takes around 6 injections at 200mgs to get shutdown.

Your brother is young, whats his resoning of him wanting to cycle? Something immature and childish like for girls....I hope not.

[one8nine]

Thats great bro. Talk up using at 17..

im just saying i have not experienced any problems my bloodwork is good my cholesterol was beautifully low last tiem tested i think the number was 75

there are studies out there, i havent read them but i have browsed over them, that say that its bad for young kids. there you go theres my disclaimer

but i do have to point out that everyone talks about beign a parrot.. but how many parrot the info that using at a young age is bad without personal experience? im just sharing my personal experience

[Bigmax]

Thats great bro. Talk up using at 17..

I agree with roid...dont do it bro...dont get on here and justify what you did at you age cause other guys may not be as lucky...and trust me you're not out of the woods yet by any means!!

[one8nine]

After one injection of deca 200mgs+ his natty test will be completely SHUTDOWN.

Deca is harder than test in this way....Test it takes around 6 injections at 200mgs to get shutdown.

Your brother is young, whats his resoning of him wanting to cycle? Something immature and childish like for girls....I hope not.

okay sorry i said supress instead of shut down
and i said next to zero instead of ZIP ZILCHO NADA NONE

i guess what i said wasnt clear enough thanks for clearing it up

[boxingbean]

man i TRY N TRY N TRY to explain it to people ALL THE TIME..**** it, just give up on em, i did a long time ago, showed proof, threads, articles, ingrediants ALL OF IT..no one will listen....

same goes for PCT....iddiots..

"learn the knowlegde, b4 u speak the wisdom"

[one8nine]

I agree with roid...dont do it bro...dont get on here and justify what you did at you age cause other guys may not be as lucky...and trust me you're not out of the woods yet by any means!!

what personal experience do you have to say that i did hurt myself

why should i tell him that he shouldnt use? its his choice but im not going to say "well even though i have personal experience that says otherwise these studdies on the internet say its bad so dont do it"

i guess all those articles on the internet that say that EQ is similar to deca are all right and everyone that has used the 2 and says they are completely different are just dumb

[Hellmaskbanned]

okay sorry i said supress instead of shut down
and i said next to zero instead of ZIP ZILCHO NADA NONE

i guess what i said wasnt clear enough thanks for clearing it up

Not trying to be a know it all bro. Didnt mean to come off as one there.

Just many say suppression when there actually thinking shut down. I know you knew so I want all to know what we know, you know!?

[one8nine]

I agree with roid...dont do it bro...dont get on here and justify what you did at you age cause other guys may not be as lucky...and trust me you're not out of the woods yet by any means!!

on the same note whos to say that giving advice to use test 500mg a week wont give someone gyno and they could be immune to nolva and be stuck with gyno.. i just made that up as an example but im just saying advice on this board is ONLY personal experience, scientific studdies by doctors in controlled experiments, or repeating what you have read. who is to say for a fact that you are right or that i am right for that matter

[one8nine]

Not trying to be a know it all bro. Didnt mean to come off as one there.

Just many say suppression when there actually thinking shut down. I know you knew so I want all to know what we know, you know!?

its cool didnt mean to come off as a dick in my reply either, or the rest of this thread

just AGRESSIVLY debating

just blame my on my 40mg halo headache

but on that note im off to the gym have a good conclusion to this thread gentlemen

[RA]

what personal experience do you have to say that i did hurt myself

why should i tell him that he shouldnt use? its his choice but im not going to say "well even though i have personal experience that says otherwise these studdies on the internet say its bad so dont do it"

i guess all those articles on the internet that say that EQ is similar to deca are all right and everyone that has used the 2 and says they are completely different are just dumb

I respect the fact that you are sharing your personal experience with the board. I think its been established that young users can run into a myriad of problems not to mention they would be the first to say "well if 500mgs is going to make me big 1000mgs will make be bigger" and so on.

At that age their test is very high and with the right training/diet they should be able to make gains without gear. The risk/reward seems to be too high in that situation. Im not trying to hammer on you. Just dont want this board to give the impression that 17 year olds should be doing aas.

[Bigmax]

I dont have ANY personal experience that YOU hurt yourself bro..I dont know you from siberia...Also there have been many posts that have been shown lately as to why...an adolescent SHOULD NOT use AAS at an early age...That EQ example was off the topic.

[Hellmaskbanned]

I started at 18yrs of age , and I regret it. Tough years, your body is still going through changes... And it definitly adds to the emotional rollercoaster that your on naturally. Of course its controllable but alot of ppl arent as strong minded as me. I made a promise to myself never to touch another aas in the next 15yrs + . It's not worth it ....gains are short lived, you can get sick or injured there all gone. Then ppl just do another cycle. Not for me I'm through with them. Hope your brother doesn't make such a stupid mistake.

[Bigmax]

Also guy ...No attack on you intended at all bro...you seem like a decent guy...but do this for us here at AR...being that you started so young...will you please post some pics of yourself so that we can what a difference it can be to start at a young age?

[boxingbean]

ya i did a deca,sus when i was 19.............kick myself.....


but knew about PCT at least

[Hellmaskbanned]

Also guy ...No attack on you intended at all bro...you seem like a decent guy...but do this for us here at AR...being that you started so young...will you please post some pics of yourself so that we can what a difference it can be to start at a young age?

You want me to post pics or one8nine?

[Bigmax]

LOL>..hey I asked for 8nine...but if you want to post some sure ..lets see!!!again this no bash on ayone...like 8nine said aggresive debate.

[*Alex*]

You want me to post pics or one8nine?

lets see it ........

[Bigmax]

Well????????????????????????Its been over an hour...it takes less time to develop the damn things!!!LOL

[Anabolios]

Jeez I missed some good debating here it's all over now

I'll wait for pics

[one8nine]

i was at the gym i just got back guys!! im going to take pictures in 3 weeks when my camera gets here in the mail good topic though

[Hellmaskbanned]

Well????????????????????????Its been over an hour...it takes less time to develop the damn things!!!LOL

I'm scared.......

Actually I don't want my body posted all over a steroid forum for personal reasons. I know I could block my face. But my friends/family knows of this site, and I don't want any word spread of my usage.




I'm small anyways so it doesnt matta!

[Bigmax]

LOL....LMAO...oh ok bro...I was starting to picture you as the terminator anyways.