"Test 250?" a little help please

[LoLoutb0y]

im on my 3rd week of "test 250" and i have a couple questions.

1: the bottle has a home-made label with a dragon on it, thats it. My friend who sold it to me said the guy he gets it from is reliable, and is a chemist or some shit and mixes it all himself. I know its real steriods because everyone who has taken it says it works, including me. But i dont see anything on this site for "test 250" does anyone know exactly what steriod im taking?

2:i also have oral winstrol. at what point in the cycle should i start taking this? also is there any thing i should do in my diet/exercise while on winstrol to help me get more cut, or does the winstrol do it on its own?

3:finally i have clomid. what point in the cycle should i start taking this? will clomid sufficiently stop the bitch tits, or should i also take some other anti-aromatizing drug?

thank you for your support, i probably sound like an idiot, but this is my first time taking these suppliments.

[LoLoutb0y]

help anyone?

[Anabolios]

They are not supplements. Where do I start? Test 250...I'll break it down for you Test=testosterone (The name of the drug you're taking) 250=the concentration 250mg/ml
You don't know what ester you have obviously..it could be a single ester or a mix for all we know, but we can rule out propionate. How about you ask the person you got it from.
Clomid is a very poor choice for stopping estrogen side effects. Nolvadex or arimidex would be much more useful in this matter.
Does winistrol get you cut by itself? NO. The "cut" is manifested in the form of lean gains which will not come unless you have a diet/cardio regimen that will promote lean gains.
When should you take the winistrol? You shouldn't because if you can't answer that question yourself then you really have no business taking any anabolic drugs.

With all that said....lets hear your stats..FULL STATS so we can help you better
Age,weight,height,training experience,cycle experience (I hope none),and body fat percentage. You really have a LOT of learning to do and it seems like you are in the dark about cycling. You came to the right place, however, you have already started your cycle which was very foolish. I look forward to hearing your response.

[LoLoutb0y]

First id like to thank you for your response
I have a vague idea of when to take the winstrol, my friend told me to begin taking it on the 9th week of the test injections, so they overlap. what i should of asked was what dosage. do i just do 1 pill a day, or every other day. i see alot of dosing methods for the clomid is to start with 300mg the first day, then bring it down to a 100mg everyday for the duration of the month.
if you could give me a better idea of what i should take/how i should take it after my cycle to stop estrogen effects that would be awsome. and i have started the test, this monday will be injection #4.

Age:20
weight:210
height:6'0
training experience: 4 years wrestling in high school, 3 years military. knowledgable about weight lifting, plyometrics, calithenics
cycle experience:none
body fat percentage:9.8%

currently i track all my progress through workout charts. i used to plan out my workouts everyday. but since i started this cycle, i follow a loose routine of certain muscle groups everytime i goto the gym, and keep my cardio/weight routine separate. the only cardio i do on weight days is before i lift, i burn maybe 100 calories at a fast/hard pace. this gets me amped up for my workouts.

again anabolios i would like to thank you for your support in answering my questions. if you have any other suggestions for workouts that i should be doing while cycling i would greatly appreciate them. my buddy told me to only lift hard during the test cycle, but im really liking the gains ive been getting doing hard uphill sprints, my legs are getting huge. should i do any different exercises for the winstrol part of the cycle?

[Anabolios]

First id like to thank you for your response
I have a vague idea of when to take the winstrol, my friend told me to begin taking it on the 9th week of the test injections, so they overlap. what i should of asked was what dosage. do i just do 1 pill a day, or every other day. i see alot of dosing methods for the clomid is to start with 300mg the first day, then bring it down to a 100mg everyday for the duration of the month.
if you could give me a better idea of what i should take/how i should take it after my cycle to stop estrogen effects that would be awsome. and i have started the test, this monday will be injection #4.

Age:20
weight:210
height:6'0
training experience: 4 years wrestling in high school, 3 years military. knowledgable about weight lifting, plyometrics, calithenics
cycle experience:none
body fat percentage:9.8%

currently i track all my progress through workout charts. i used to plan out my workouts everyday. but since i started this cycle, i follow a loose routine of certain muscle groups everytime i goto the gym, and keep my cardio/weight routine separate. the only cardio i do on weight days is before i lift, i burn maybe 100 calories at a fast/hard pace. this gets me amped up for my workouts.

again anabolios i would like to thank you for your support in answering my questions. if you have any other suggestions for workouts that i should be doing while cycling i would greatly appreciate them. my buddy told me to only lift hard during the test cycle, but im really liking the gains ive been getting doing hard uphill sprints, my legs are getting huge. should i do any different exercises for the winstrol part of the cycle?

Well if those stats are true...then GREAT FOR YOU! You are in awesome shape and a bit young to be using AAS...but if you are in that good of shape then I'd say do what you have to do...You should be working out very hard and dieting just as good. Check the workout and diet forums for the questions. A lot of your questions can be answered just by searching...I know it might be a little annoying to hear that but it will mostly likely save you time in the long run and help us help you!
Find out the ester of the test (Enanthate,cypionate,decanoate,or sustanon blend) These are just a few different esters which control the release time of the hormone in your body. If you like doing uphill sprints go for it. That all depends on the goals you are trying to get from this cycle. Read on post cycle therapy and it's applicable ancillaries (Nolvadex,clomid) When you find out the ester of testosterone you are using then I can tell you the most efficient time to run the winistrol and the best time to start your post cycle therapy! Say you have testosterone enanthate...and you run it weeks 1-12..your post cycle therapy starts on week 14 (2 weeks after last injection..this varies by the ester that's why it's important to know) It's better to have SOME anabolic substance in your body during weeks 12-14 before you start your pct...this is where the winistrol comes in...I would honest say save it for further cycles, but you seem set on using it. If you start it at week 9 you can run it right up until your post cycle therapy begins (week 14) @ 50mg/everyday which is a decent dose especially for a beginner. Depending on how your tabs are dosed you will have to adjust accordingly.
Your PCT=Post cycle therapy can consist of many things, but a standard pct is 4 weeks of clomid/nolvadex combo
Weeks 14-16 Nolvadex @ 40mg/everyday
Weeks 14-18 Clomid @ 100mg/ed (ed=everyday)
Weeks 17+18 Nolvadex @ 20mg/every day
I would normally yell at you for not knowing but everyone has to start somewhere! Plus you were more than polite in your response so I figured I would get you started just as others got me started here. Learn learn learn and you will be able to cycle,train,and eat more efficiently in the future
Best of luck to you and ANY other questions you have feel free to PM me or ask on the open forum...we're here to help.

[Anabolios]

I forgot to say...I'd never run before my workouts...but if it works for you and gets you pumped to lift..GREAT! When I do cardio it's in the morning on an empty stomach. I shoot for a heart rate of 130 for 30 minutes with a 5 minute cool down. This works good for me. Sometimes I run AFTER my workout when I am carb depleted (I think Narkissos advocates this method as well)

And if you start to feel signs of gyno (titties) hard lumps under the nips or tenderness...start nolvadex @ 20mg/ed during the cycle to combat this.

[LoLoutb0y]

thanks man! i think i got it now. ill go home tonight and find out the exact mg's of my clomid and winstrol and the ester of my test.
but if i read correctly i think my cycle will look something like this
week 1-10- 1cc test/a week
week 9-14- 50 mg winstrol/ed
week 14-18- nolvadex/clomid in your reccomended dosage

haha, i wanna get out of work and hit the gym right now!
also, is there any legal way to get some nolvadex?

[stuball]

thanks man! i think i got it now. ill go home tonight and find out the exact mg's of my clomid and winstrol and the ester of my test.
but if i read correctly i think my cycle will look something like this
week 1-10- 1cc test/a week
week 9-14- 50 mg winstrol/ed
week 14-18- nolvadex/clomid in your reccomended dosage

haha, i wanna get out of work and hit the gym right now!
also, is there any legal way to get some nolvadex?

Go to the top of this page in the right hand corner...

[LoLoutb0y]

the anabolic research? which one is the nolva?

[Anabolios]

the anabolic research? which one is the nolva?

Tamox is nolvadex and clomiphene is clomid. If you are only running one cc a week I would still split it up every 3.5 days...monday morning and thursday night for example. 1/2 of a cc on each.

[LoLoutb0y]

is the tamox real? what are the stipulations, will you get arrested or something for buying it off of that site?

[Anabolios]

is the tamox real? what are the stipulations, will you get arrested or something for buying it off of that site?

No...lol its not some setup...its legal as long as its used for research It's safe to ship

[LoLoutb0y]

btw anabolios, you asked before to find the esther, it says "test-e 250" on the vial. does that help?

[svarturer]

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[Anabolios]

E = Enathate
that is the ester

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=3152

Inject twice weekly...Monday morning and thursday night for example. If you are only injecting 250 weekly..try splitting up one cc twice a week..not easy...get another bottle and inject one cc twice weekly=500mg

[LoLoutb0y]

awsome, thank you, is there some reason behind this?

[Anabolios]

awsome, thank you, is there some reason behind this?

Because of the time the hormone is released in your body. If it had a propionate ester or phenylpropionate.then it would require more frequent injections. Enanthate is ok to inject every 3 days or 3.5 as mentioned above. Cypionate and decanoate can be injected in the same fashion.