Trying to plan next cycle, need hlp!

[BigSwol]

What up bros, I just finnished a test e/deca cycle. I ran it for 12 weeks and will actually be starting pct next week. My stats....im damn near 30, bw 215, and 6' tall. Been lifting for bout 12 years.

First cycle went good...gained roughly 15-18lbs, and not too many sides. Im starting to plan for my next cycle and wanted some advice/input. I was planning to run the cycle for 14 weeks and was thinking of adding an oral in the beginning to get things going. My main concern with this next cycle would be being able to keep decent cardiovascular shape. This is where I need the hlp. I know some compounds really hamper cardiovascular conditioning. What do we think of a d-bol, test cyp, and eq cycle? Would this kill the lungs? Or would a t-bol, test cyp/e, and deca cycle be better? I've also been considering adding some tren a, but I've heard tren can really cause problems with cardio. I'll stop with the questions for now and wait for some responses.

Thanks

BigSwol

[guest589745]

why not:

prop
equipoise
deca

Masteron/winny would maybe go better but they can cause problems with joints due to the anti e properties of dht's.


Deca has had no ill effects on my, just great strength increase and joints feel a lil better.

Tren is knowns for causing serious lack of cardiovascular endurance in some.


why is it important for your cardio to be in check? any sports or just wanna keep yer heart healthier ?

[BigSwol]

I plan on training BJJ around that time. So I need to keep some cardio shape. I was staying away from prop just due to the pain issue. Many bro's say its the most painful thing they have ran. The eq, test e/cyp, +an oral would be prime....but what oral would ya suggest?

BigSwol

[perfectbeast2001]

Im using Dbol at the moment with test e and EQ. My cardio capacity has gone from great before cycle to shite!! Im knackered after tying up my shoelaces let alone how i feel after the treadmill!! I blame the Dbol for that as ive used the other compounds without these issues before. Never tried Tbol but i will be trying it next cycle instead of Dbol to avoid this problem again.

[BigSwol]

Im using Dbol at the moment with test e and EQ. My cardio capacity has gone from great before cycle to shite!! Im knackered after tying up my shoelaces let alone how i feel after the treadmill!! I blame the Dbol for that as ive used the other compounds without these issues before. Never tried Tbol but i will be trying it next cycle instead of Dbol to avoid this problem again.

I have heard this also in regards to dbol. But I have heard tbol doesn't quite yield the same results.

Skull were you suggesting frontloading with the prop? Instead of using an oral? Would this work...if so what dose, and what freq/ed/eod?

BigSwol

[BigSwol]

Just bumping to get some more input....bro's?