100% natural...for now...

[CSAR]

Just posting my pics. The one with the goatee was a couple of months ago (6', 195 lbs., bf% unknown). The other one was a few weeks ago (6', 191 lbs., bf% unknown). I should've taken a back shot, but forgot to. Trying to work on my traps and delts as IMO they're my weak parts at the present.

I've never used AAS before, but I'm doing my research now and getting my PCT items first. Not sure when I'll start my first cycle, but I plan on taking day by day pics with stats to document the entire process. Just want to thank everyone who's posted AAS info - it's been super helpful!

Cheers!

[NOREGRETS]

Good base. Good Luck

[Hellmaskbanned]

Look good.

But looks to me like your legs are lacking.

[IBdmfkr]

Get your diet/training regimen in order first bro, you have a lot of natural potential left before AAS should even be considered.. also take weekly pics rather than daily pics as you will fluctuate too much day to day with water weight etc...

[CSAR]

Look good.

But looks to me like your legs are lacking.

Thanks. I agree, but leg training is very difficult with this messed up spine of mine. Unfortunately, squats of any type are off limits and because of the nerve damage I sustained, I am unable to use a lot of weight on leg pressing movements. But thanks for the honest critique! I'll try to figure someway of working on my pins!!

Get your diet/training regimen in order first bro, you have a lot of natural potential left before AAS should even be considered.. also take weekly pics rather than daily pics as you will fluctuate too much day to day with water weight etc...

Also thanks and you've got a great bodybuilding pic for your avatar, which I'm guessing is you? Well, as I am 35, going on 36, with over 21 years of lifting/nutrition experience (for more info, please read my NEW MEMBERS post), I'm pretty sure my natural potential is pretty much at its peak. Believe me, I'm not a spring chicken anymore. Also, I'm more interested in quality gains rather than quantity gains. Presently, I'm researching a cycle using testosterone prop, trenbolone, anavar, and arimidex BUT only after I get my PCT gear squared away. Anyway, your advice is duly noted and well-received. I'll still take daily pics, but perhaps only post the weekly ones. Thanks again!

[IBdmfkr]

CSAR.. trust me at a young age of 35years old you are NOWHERE near your genetic potential.. you are obviously doing something wrong whether it be your Training intensity/frequency/style, your Diet (caloric intake, types of foods eaten, nutrient timing), or the amount of Rest your are getting during the night, between workouts etc.. as you see it is a number of things when done properly together that make the physique change. The drugs are a very small portion, I can name dozens of ppl locally who use that still look like crap because they are missing a link that I mentioned above. Research those things I mentioned and get them in order and I will guarantee you will see results like you just started lifting yesterday. It isn't as easy as sticking a syringe in your glute but this sport isn't easy, otherwise everyone would look like great which obviously isn't the case. Btw, yes that is me in my avatar at my first competition a week ago.

[QUEBECBIGMAN]

looking good

[timtim]

you look really good and ready to cycle. believe me, there have been thousands before you with not near the same development doing big cycles. good luck.

[powerliftmike]

I know guys that have had back problems, but are still able to front squat. Have you tried this? good luck

[CSAR]

I know guys that have had back problems, but are still able to front squat. Have you tried this? good luck

Thanks! Yeah, I have tried front squats, but I can't manage any serious weight (less than 200 lbs.). I've been rated as and receiving 40% disability compensation from the VA for my back. Guess I'll have to work harder on the hack squats and leg presses.

BTW, that's a mighty big stone you're lugging around dude! Hell yeah!!

[CSAR]

CSAR.. trust me at a young age of 35years old you are NOWHERE near your genetic potential.. you are obviously doing something wrong whether it be your Training intensity/frequency/style, your Diet (caloric intake, types of foods eaten, nutrient timing), or the amount of Rest your are getting during the night, between workouts etc.. as you see it is a number of things when done properly together that make the physique change. The drugs are a very small portion, I can name dozens of ppl locally who use that still look like crap because they are missing a link that I mentioned above. Research those things I mentioned and get them in order and I will guarantee you will see results like you just started lifting yesterday. It isn't as easy as sticking a syringe in your glute but this sport isn't easy, otherwise everyone would look like great which obviously isn't the case. Btw, yes that is me in my avatar at my first competition a week ago.

As I'm still a new member, I can't PM yet. Let me outline my present training/nutritional regimen and hopefully you can give me some pointers.

At my university in Tokyo, we have roughly 3-month semesters. The Spring semester runs from April to June. The Fall semester runs from late September to mid December. I'm off the other 6 months of the year, but fortunately still get paid. That said, I have a few weeks of Summer vacation remaining. I vary my training (i.e., heavy, moderate, light weights) according to the aforementioned work schedule.

Presently, I'm on a one day lifting (on) / one day rest (off) training schedule and I'm lifting heavy. For me, heavy is 2-3 warm up sets followed by 3-4 working sets. Weights for the working sets are 80% or greater of my 1RM, 3-6 reps per set. I usually aim for roughly 20 working sets for major muscle groups and 12 for minor muscle groups. Rest is 2-3 minutes between sets. Intensity? Hmm, that might be subjective, but I can say that the Japanese dudes think I'm crazy. Staff said I grunt like Jay Cutler...I just don't look like him. I will say that I'm a stickler on form, but with my back I have to be careful with any lifting.

Day 1: anterior/lateral delts, upper back (lats), calves
Day 2: rest
Day 3: chest, triceps, abs
Day 4: rest
Day 5: legs, calves
Day 6: rest
Day 7: rear delts, middle/lower back, biceps, abs
Day 8: rest
repeat

Example of today's chest workout. Weights are in lbs.
1. Incline bench
Warm-up sets: 135 x 12, 185 x 10, 225 x 8
Working sets: 275 x 5, 295 x 3, 275 x 5, 250 x 6
2. Flat dumbell press
Warm-up set: 60 x 12
Working sets: 90 x 6, 100 x 5, 90 x 6, 90 x 6
3. Flat dumbell flyes
Warm-up sets: 45 x 12, 55 x 10
Working sets: 75 x 6 (4 sets)
4. Pull-overs
Warm-up set: 45 x 12
Working sets: 75 x 6 (4 sets)
5. Dips
Working sets: bodyweight x 12 (4 sets)

The next time I train chest, I will use five different movements.

During school vacations I ride my bicycle to the gym for cardio (20-30 mins. one-way depending on the weather) and take my daughter to the playground for a couple hours after lunch (chasing after a 2-year-old IS cardio). On my rest days, I do 30 mins. of stairs and take my daughter to the playground after lunch.

Nutrition-wise, I'm eating 300 g of protein and 600 g of carbs per day spread out over 6 meals. My protein sources include lean beef, chicken, fish, eggs, and various soy products (tofu, natto, etc.). Carb sources are primarily complex and include brown rice, oatmeal, various types of potatoes, and pasta. Occasionally, I will eat sushi (I am living in the sushi capital of the world), sashimi, or yakitori as cheat foods. I eat a wide variety of fruits and vegetables, but usually go light on the fruit. I don't eat fast food, I rarely eat sweets, and I probably have 3 pints of Guiness once a month with the guys. I don't really count calories or worry too much about fat content, as Japanese cooking is quite healthy and low in fats. I also drink 6 L of water per day, minimum.

Supplement-wise, I take BCAAs and NO-Xplode 45 mins. pre-workout. Post-workout, I take CellTech immediately after and 30 mins. later I take ON 100% Whey. I also take an Animal Pak, liver tabs, tribulus, and chrysin as directed on the labels. At night, I'll have another protein drink 30 mins. before bed.

I usually get 7-8 hours of sleep per night and take 30 min. naps in the early afternoon.

Whew! My fingers got pumped just from typing all that. Anyhow, before the Summer vacation is over, I'll determine my 1 RM's and adjust the weights accordingly. Once the Fall semester starts up, I'll change my lifting schedule to moderate (60% of 1RM) and lift on a 5 on / 2 off schedule. I'll probably eat the same, but will definitely cycle some different supplements.

Anyway, I sincerely do appreciate your time in reading this and for your advice!! Again, great avatar pic!! BTW, which contest and how'd you do?

[IBdmfkr]

Lets go back to the nutrition part of it, you claim you take in 300g's of protein/day and 600g's of carbs/day, yet you claim you don't really count calories.. These two just don't add up, not to mention if you truely are consistantly taking in these amounts of macros and not putting on weight you have a serious problem. Maybe go get your thyroid checked etc..
That is approx. more than likely over 4000calories with fats, I highly doubt you are putting down that kind of food, you're talking each of your six meals are over 600calories apiece which is a lot of food for someone your size. I'd start there and see if you are really doing this consistantly or not because 4K calories for someone your size just isn't needed for growth, which makes me believe you aren't even getting close to this.

[CSAR]

Lets go back to the nutrition part of it, you claim you take in 300g's of protein/day and 600g's of carbs/day, yet you claim you don't really count calories.. These two just don't add up, not to mention if you truely are consistantly taking in these amounts of macros and not putting on weight you have a serious problem. Maybe go get your thyroid checked etc..
That is approx. more than likely over 4000calories with fats, I highly doubt you are putting down that kind of food, you're talking each of your six meals are over 600calories apiece which is a lot of food for someone your size. I'd start there and see if you are really doing this consistantly or not because 4K calories for someone your size just isn't needed for growth, which makes me believe you aren't even getting close to this.

Counting grams of protein/carbs isn't the same as counting calories, IMO. As I said, I'm not really concerned with calories, but try to take in certain amounts of protein/carbs. If I were concerned with calories, I suppose I would have reported 1200 calories from protein sources and 2400 calories from complex carb sources, plus an unknown amount from fats. I agree, it is a lot of food and often I struggle to eat it all, plus I'm on the toilet a couple times a day.

Your thyroid comment made a big impact. I hadn't even really considered it. A few months ago, a member of our family was diagnosed with thyroid problems, which led to other family members having their thyroids checked. Two members of my immediate family had similar problems, so I'll have to get this checked.

Thanks for the pointers!

[IBdmfkr]

No problem, but I do disagree about your comment about counting Prot/Carbs being different than Total calories as they go hand-in-hand with any dietary approach. The types of Proteins/carbs/fat will obviously have an impact on muscle growth or fat gained. But total calories do regulate these things as much as the quality of foods eaten.

[LatinoPR]

Looking great,do a good search an do a good 1st cycle,if you have any question ask firt before start your cycle,remember that that's include your pct....VERY IMPORTANT...!!!







LPR ...dermatology.

[CSAR]

No problem, but I do disagree about your comment about counting Prot/Carbs being different than Total calories as they go hand-in-hand with any dietary approach. The types of Proteins/carbs/fat will obviously have an impact on muscle growth or fat gained. But total calories do regulate these things as much as the quality of foods eaten.

I think we're looking at different sides of the same pyramid, different strokes for different folks, etc.

IMO, for a competitive bodybuilder like yourself, it absolutely makes sense to micromanage your nutritional intake by tracking total calories, types of proteins/carbs/fat, etc. As I am not a competitive bodybuilder and don't really view myself as such, especially with my priorities being family, friends, university, research, lifting weights/fitness, etc., I honestly don't have the time to track all these little details when it comes time to eat.

My wife cooks traditional Japanese food, which (according to the nutritional tables for each recipe in the cookbooks she uses) is very low in any type of fat. Thus, I am not very concerned with counting fat calories or fat grams. I am concerned with the number of grams for protein and carbs. I'm in complete agreement that the types of nutrients "have an impact on muscle growth or fat gained," especially for carbs. I've experienced the fat gain associated with too many simple sugars as well as the muscle fullness/water retention with potatoes, pasta, and white rice. As I tend to stick with brown rice and plain oats as my main carb sources, I don't seem to have the same experiences as with the other carbs.

Although we do eat red meat, chicken, bread, potatoes, pasta and food typical of Western/European countries, our diet primarily consists of fresh fish (usually raw), Japanese vegetables, and brown rice. The Japanese diet is widely acknowledged as being one of the healthiest if not the healthiest in the world and is often cited as one of the reasons why Japan has the highest longevity rates for both males and females. As I've said before, I'm mainly concerned with making sure that I'm getting enough protein and carbs for quality gains (i.e., lean muscle), which is why (along with all the info listed above) I don't feel the need to micromanage my diet. I know the food I'm eating is high quality and ingesting around 4000 calories/day doesn't seem to be much of a problem as far as getting fat (although I am in the bathroom a couple times a day). I'm managing to retain my musculature, while increasing my daily cardio to lose bodyfat. Right now, my weight is stable at around 190 lbs. I plan to tweak my diet a little and see what happens, but don't forsee any drastic changes in my body.

As for "obviously doing something wrong," sure - we all are. After looking at other member's photographs, some are doing more things right than others and vice versa. I have noticed quite a few new members and photos along with their info such as "I've been lifting for 2 months and just started a cycle," or "I'm 19 and thinking about using AAS." However, and interestingly enough, I haven't seen any posts from you telling them that they are "obviously doing something wrong," "haven't reached their natural potential," or advising them to wait before using AAS. I'll admit I haven't looked over every new member's posts and photos, but in the several that I have perused, I don't see you offering these types of criticism. I have noticed your posts where you give AAS advice to younger members with much less lifting experience and I'm curious as to why. In addition, IMO you've offered no useful advice. Finally, you haven't answered my earlier question as to which contest you took part in and how you placed. I suppose if you didn't win the competition, it would be fair to say that "obviously you did something wrong." We could even say that because Jay Cutler hasn't won the Olympia that he's "obviously doing something wrong." However, such criticism really isn't necessary, is it?

As for AAS, I fully intend to use them in a conscious and responsible manner, taking into account the experience and information I have gained from other AR members. Are my pictures of me in my best condition? Absolutely not. I've looked a helluva lot better as well as a helluva lot worse. But for my current situation and past history, I think I'm doing pretty damn good and of course, I'll continue to learn from my mistakes and do better.

If you have some honest advice rather than non-constructive criticism, then I am fully open to what you have to offer. But if you're just going to give a negative post, then I'd rather you looked for an AR member who is more deserving.

Cheers to all who've given some positive feedback and truly helpful advice. It is much appreciated!

[IBdmfkr]

That was extremely long and I skimmed through the latter half.. I placed 2nd in my contest, and which contest isn't a concern. Sorry you took my comments so negatively, and as far as me commenting on most of these other guys posts I skip over the majority of the ones I don't see fit really being useful or ones that I feel won't benefit from me commenting or giving my experience. You for example I felt I could comment and possible have a good discussion with as you seem more advanced and intelligent enough to see constructive debate/criticism rather than me being negative towards you. Anyhow, I gotta get some sleep just checking in on certain posts, hope all goes well, you have a good physique and obviously have a well-rounded diet. Try and input more useful info next time I comment in your threads, G'night.
B D

[Undecided09]

I have to ask this question, why are u even considering AAS? Your not planning to compete, you Don't play a sport, and you already have a good "I wanna be in shape" body?? What is the point/end game??? Also, my opinion about whether you should juice or not is def. a NO! If you are coming to a message board to see whether or not you are ready for AAS or not, then the answer is obviously no, people who are ready don't need to come to an onlne forum to find that out...

~M.A.D.

[brjrj0000]

I have to ask this question, why are u even considering AAS? Your not planning to compete, you Don't play a sport, and you already have a good "I wanna be in shape" body?? What is the point/end game??? Also, my opinion about whether you should juice or not is def. a NO! If you are coming to a message board to see whether or not you are ready for AAS or not, then the answer is obviously no, people who are ready don't need to come to an onlne forum to find that out...

~M.A.D.

I'm really getting tired of seeing this. What does this guy have to do for it to be ok for him to cycle in your eyes? What should he bust his ass for a few more years to improve his base wait till he's 39 so he can make even BIGGER GAINS in the long run? What do you think if he starts relying on juice now theres no way he's gonna every look like Arnold. People forget that it is not everyones goal to be mr olympia or even compete. What is wrong with simply wanting to improve ones own body.Sure one could do it all naturally but lets be honest a lot of us have a little help and in my eyes theres nothing wrong with that. This man obviously has put in some time and effort and judging by his muscle and low body fat has some grasp on diet and nutriton. So why not run a cycle at the age of 36? What should he wait for? Judging from his lifts he shows he has good strength so thats not it. (Responsible use) not abuse of steroids will more than likely not seriously affect his health. So man i say if you wanna try a cycle why not. Whats wrong with just wanting to be a big dude for awhile. Looking good for the girlfriend or boyfriend. (Just had to be politically correct) You seem like a responsible adult. Just double check to make sure your diet is actually in order as recommended by I**mfkr so you get the best gains possible.

[IBdmfkr]

Agreed, Sauce it up brother lol

[helium3]

No problem, but I do disagree about your comment about counting Prot/Carbs being different than Total calories as they go hand-in-hand with any dietary approach. The types of Proteins/carbs/fat will obviously have an impact on muscle growth or fat gained. But total calories do regulate these things as much as the quality of foods eaten.

so your saying i could eat mcdonalds and kfc and still make gains as good as eating chicken and rice etc as long as the calorie intake is the same?maybe i missed something but thats bs!

[helium3]

Counting grams of protein/carbs isn't the same as counting calories, IMO. As I said, I'm not really concerned with calories, but try to take in certain amounts of protein/carbs. If I were concerned with calories, I suppose I would have reported 1200 calories from protein sources and 2400 calories from complex carb sources, plus an unknown amount from fats. I agree, it is a lot of food and often I struggle to eat it all, plus I'm on the toilet a couple times a day.

Your thyroid comment made a big impact. I hadn't even really considered it. A few months ago, a member of our family was diagnosed with thyroid problems, which led to other family members having their thyroids checked. Two members of my immediate family had similar problems, so I'll have to get this checked.

Thanks for the pointers!

this makes a lot of sense,i work my diet like that,taking note of the calories within the food types im eating which is mainly protein and carbs,3500 cals of shit aint gonna make you grow.its what the foods made of that counts not just the calories in it.

[IBdmfkr]

so your saying i could eat mcdonalds and kfc and still make gains as good as eating chicken and rice etc as long as the calorie intake is the same?maybe i missed something but thats bs!

That's just a ignorant interpretation and totally taken out of context.. Reread what you quoted bro.. Here's a few key points you might have missed in my sentence. "types of Proteins/carbs/fat will have an impact on muscle growth or fat gained", "total calories do regulate these things as much as the quality of foods eaten"

You must've read the post wrong or have difficulty understanding what I was saying.

Also last time I checked, when was McDonalds ever considered "food" for a bodybuilder or anyone else with enhancing their body in mind.

[helium3]

actually i was completely overstating the case,but there are other effective methods of measuring daily requirments,for example,eating 1.5 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight(i alter the ratio depending on gym and cardio work done.,which is how i calculate my diet,becuase i find it very dificult to work how many cals ive burnt at work which is quite a lot.so as long as i hit my target protein and carb intake im not bothered what my cals are.

[helium3]

That's just a ignorant interpretation and totally taken out of context.. Reread what you quoted bro.. Here's a few key points you might have missed in my sentence. "types of Proteins/carbs/fat will have an impact on muscle growth or fat gained", "total calories do regulate these things as much as the quality of foods eaten"

You must've read the post wrong or have difficulty understanding what I was saying.

Also last time I checked, when was McDonalds ever considered "food" for a bodybuilder or anyone else with enhancing their body in mind.

maybe i just skimmed over some of your post lol.

[IBdmfkr]

lol No biggie. we're all right in our own way, do what works best for you and I'll do what works for me.

[CSAR]

I have to ask this question, why are u even considering AAS? Your not planning to compete, you Don't play a sport, and you already have a good "I wanna be in shape" body?? What is the point/end game??? Also, my opinion about whether you should juice or not is def. a NO! If you are coming to a message board to see whether or not you are ready for AAS or not, then the answer is obviously no, people who are ready don't need to come to an onlne forum to find that out...

~M.A.D.

I could argue that a probable majority of AR members using or contemplating using AAS don't compete, don't play sports, or already have a good "I wanna be in shape" body. Why does there have to be any point/end game?

Do people drink alcohol with the point/end game being to become an alcoholic? Do people try drugs (pot, LSD, ecstasy, etc.) to become a junkie? Do people play pick-up games of b-ball to become an NBA player?

Fact: various surveys have demonstrated that the majority of people who enter marathons don't enter to win or compete against other marathoners. They enter for the experience and most respondents of the surveys merely hoped to finish.

Fact: less than 1% of all college football players go on to play in the NFL. Should 99% stop playing just because they have no chance of even playing for the worst NFL team?

I was an above average strong safety with decent speed and size (4.6 40, 6', 203 lbs) and I loved to hit. I was good enough to start my freshman and sophomore years at university. But I didn't quit just because I had no intention of trying to make it in the NFL. I played because I wanted to.

I'm not here asking whether or not I'm ready for AAS, because I know I am. My primary reason for joining AR is to obtain knowledge from other AR members who have experience with AAS. At this point, I have no desire to become a pro bodybuilder or to compete. Could that change? Absolutely. It is possible that I could have a change of mind and decide that I want to compete, but right now, that's not my interest. Haven't you ever wanted to open a door just to see what was on the other side?

[CSAR]

That was extremely long and I skimmed through the latter half.. I placed 2nd in my contest, and which contest isn't a concern. Sorry you took my comments so negatively, and as far as me commenting on most of these other guys posts I skip over the majority of the ones I don't see fit really being useful or ones that I feel won't benefit from me commenting or giving my experience. You for example I felt I could comment and possible have a good discussion with as you seem more advanced and intelligent enough to see constructive debate/criticism rather than me being negative towards you. Anyhow, I gotta get some sleep just checking in on certain posts, hope all goes well, you have a good physique and obviously have a well-rounded diet. Try and input more useful info next time I comment in your threads, G'night.
B D

Sorry for getting a little testy bro. I honestly respect your opinions and advice as I have read several of your posts with info about AAS. I think you have a wealth of knowledge and experience and you obviously have your dope dialed tight (ubiquitous marine term meaning you know wtf you're doing and you're doing it very well). Perhaps I'm mistaken, but from your posts I get the sense that you're older than 35 and have been using AAS for several years. For me, you're an ideal AR member to emulate as you've probably "been there and done that."

I should have asked better questions regarding nutrition and AAS. For example, does eating different types of protein sources (i.e., red meat vs. poultry vs. fish) produce different changes in your body? What sources/types of carbs do you prefer and why? Have you ever used proviron as a bridge between cycles? If not, do you think it is viable for such a purpose or better suited for others? I'm contemplating using test-prop as my testosterone source during a lean bulking cycle, but I'm concerned about the EOD injections which some AR members have experienced as being quite painful. IYO, would test-enth be a better choice?

I might be mistaken in asking such questions in this thread...

Anyhow, congrats on your placing and good luck with your future competition endeavors. Sorry for asking which contest, I should have respected the privacy of your identity.

[CSAR]

I'm really getting tired of seeing this. What does this guy have to do for it to be ok for him to cycle in your eyes? What should he bust his ass for a few more years to improve his base wait till he's 39 so he can make even BIGGER GAINS in the long run? What do you think if he starts relying on juice now theres no way he's gonna every look like Arnold. People forget that it is not everyones goal to be mr olympia or even compete. What is wrong with simply wanting to improve ones own body.Sure one could do it all naturally but lets be honest a lot of us have a little help and in my eyes theres nothing wrong with that. This man obviously has put in some time and effort and judging by his muscle and low body fat has some grasp on diet and nutriton. So why not run a cycle at the age of 36? What should he wait for? Judging from his lifts he shows he has good strength so thats not it. (Responsible use) not abuse of steroids will more than likely not seriously affect his health. So man i say if you wanna try a cycle why not. Whats wrong with just wanting to be a big dude for awhile. Looking good for the girlfriend or boyfriend. (Just had to be politically correct) You seem like a responsible adult. Just double check to make sure your diet is actually in order as recommended by I**mfkr so you get the best gains possible.

My sentiments exactly. Thanks for the support and understanding! Cheers bro!!

[timtim]

i said earlier in the thread that you are definately ready to cycle. i have no reason to cycle anymore but still do because i love training, dieting, and continually improving. 1 cycle a year does wonders coupled with year round hard core dieting. go for it, when i reach your age i will be on trt already.

[Undecided09]

Go for it dude, shrink those balls away!!!

~M.A.D.

[IBdmfkr]

CSAR, you seem like an extremely intelligent guy and have tons of respect for others, glad we didn't get off on the wrong foot.

As for your questions, these are merely my opinions based on personal experience.

For example, does eating different types of protein sources (i.e., red meat vs. poultry vs. fish) produce different changes in your body?

Yes deffinently, for example. Lets say you ate all chicken or lean fish throughout the day, well you're not only limiting yourself to the nutrients you're obtaining from the meats, but your calorie count will be thrown off as well because of the lack of animal fats in your diet. If you intregrate say egg whites in your first meal, chicken in the second, steak third, turkey forth, pork or salmon fifth and so on you get a much wider range of meats/nutrients not to mention you can mix and match different GI carbs depending on the fat consistancy of the meats.. so it deff makes a difference IMO.

What sources/types of carbs do you prefer and why? Have you ever used proviron as a bridge between cycles? If not, do you think it is viable for such a purpose or better suited for others?

Here are my only carb sources (oats, grits, whole wheat pasta/bagels, brown rice, corn tortillas, potatoes, yams, beans, fruits, nuts, and vegetables). Anything processed, flour or enriched is a big No No in my book. Whole wheat bagels being the only exception on occasion. The majority of my cheat meals also consist of better sources of carbs/proteins/fats just either in larger servings or on a rare occasion I'll just go for something totally off the diet like cheesecake/pie/cake or something similar but make up for it in remaining meals the same day or the day or two after by eliminating small amount of calories to compensate if that makes sense.

Proviron, yes I've bridged with it at 100mg/day. Would I do it again? Never.
It is a great libido enhancer with PCT but inhibited my ability to recover, I finished with my PCT consisting of Aromasin/Clomid/Proviron and my Test Levels came back at a bit under 50ng/dL, normal range is 250-900.. Dropped the proviron, added Nolva with the Clomid (because that's what's worked in the past) and 4-6wks later everything came back fine.. Many will claim it doesn't hurt your recovery or keep you suppressed but I call BS on that claim, the only thing that should be used during PCT and between cycles IMO is HGH, IGF LR3, and possibly Clen although I think that's another worthless unneeded compound.

I'm contemplating using test-prop as my testosterone source during a lean bulking cycle, but I'm concerned about the EOD injections which some AR members have experienced as being quite painful. IYO, would test-enth be a better choice?

Test Prop IMO is the best choice whether bulking or cutting, less water retention, easier to control dosage, you actually absorb more of the hormone per mg amoung other things, personally my favorite choice followed by Test Enanthate.. I like to run much shorter cycle as of recent so I stick with Propionate and a possible oral, no Nandrolone's/19-Nor drugs ever again as I like easy recovery and they aren't naturally occuring hormones produced by the human body. DHT dirived hormones are great for pre-comp cycles so they're part of my regimen.

Again these are all my opinions, you will find many ppl who agree, some who don't and others who don't have enough experience to have an opinion lol..
Either way, there is only one way to find out what you like/dislike and that's to run different compounds and combinations to see how your respond and which drugs your body favors. Goodluck bro, lemme know if this helped answer a few of your questions.
Oh and btw, I'm nowhere near 35yrs old, but my mentors are all at that age or over so they made most of the mistakes already for me Wise man lets others make the mistakes and corrects himself before he follows in their footsteps.

Sorry for the extremely long post in your pic thread
Felt like I was writing a freakin book.

[CSAR]

I**mfkr awesome post dude! You gave me a lot of really good info that I can incorporate immediately and a lot of other info to think about. I'll stick with the Test-Prop! Cheers!!