winny-dianabol stack

[evsie]

i am going to be taking winstrol tabs at 100mg ed for 6-7 weeks,dianabol at 35-50mg ed for 7 weeks,followed by clomid at 75mg ed for the 4weeks after the dianabol.have already stacked with winny and dianabol before with good results from lower dosages.would be grateful on any advice on how to stack these 3 in order to get best results.

[SMAN12b]

It would be BEST if you did NOT do a cycle like that at all..... that being said,,

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[evsie]

i am 23,6 foot 4 inches,215 pounds,athletic build,football and the gym 4 times a week,previous cycle winstrol-dianabol with good results,goals to add good mass without to much water retention keeping definition,as to stay fit for football.any advice welcome.why is this such a bad cycle to do?cheers for the reply

[almostgone]

i am 23,6 foot 4 inches,215 pounds,athletic build,football and the gym 4 times a week,previous cycle winstrol-dianabol with good results,goals to add good mass without to much water retention keeping definition,as to stay fit for football.any advice welcome.why is this such a bad cycle to do?cheers for the reply

1. Running 2 17AA together is h@ll on the liver.
2. Most prefer to include some form of test in their cycle.

There are more reasons, but those 2 should suffice.

AG

[SMAN12b]

You say you want to keep water retention down , but then say you want to do DBOL......

You would do better for mass with a straight Test E/ Deca cycle use arimidex throughout and you could finish with winny at the end if you want.

JMHO

[PROTEINSHAKE]

these are 2 opposing compounds...you have ran them before together with good results? thats hard to believe.maybe good results to you but compared to what you could gain with 2 proper compounds your gains couldnt have been good. do what SMAN is telling you.....test e/deca & finish w winny. you will be MUCH happier....trust the SMAN

[RobbieG]

My november cycle will be Test Prop and winny.. that´s always a great stack .. 6 weeks of that is probably more than 50 % effective and prolly is going to cost less .. and you will keep the gains!

[01dragonslayer]

i am going to be taking winstrol tabs at 100mg ed for 6-7 weeks,dianabol at 35-50mg ed for 7 weeks,followed by clomid at 75mg ed for the 4weeks after the dianabol.have already stacked with winny and dianabol before with good results from lower dosages.would be grateful on any advice on how to stack these 3 in order to get best results.

Go to your local hospital....get on the waiting list for the next liver transplant.

Both those hormones are extremely heptoxic and running them together is just asking for problems. Winny should be ran for 6wks max at a dose of 50mg/ED for a novice and dbol, IMO, is only good for jump starting cycles while waiting for the longer estered hormones to take effect.

No flame dude, but I think a little more research is in order here.

[gymrat12345]

Too Pussy To Poke, Too Pussy For Aas...period!

[G-1000]

HAHAHa

run the cycle for 7 weeks. Then call you doc and tell him to place and order for a new liver.


No bro orals are not used for running cycle.

[BlInDsIdE]

oral only cycles r just dumb- don't b afraid of the needle TESTOSTERONE is your FRIEND

[Tank75]

i'd recommend test prop for you if you're involved with football. if you play college ball and get tested then the prop stays in your system for 2 weeks or so, but longer estered tests can stay in for a few months.

[SLYDOG69]

stay away from deca too since u probably will be tested it stays in your system to long

[getpumped24]

LIVER KILLER!!!! no injection=no cycle

[Elexecution]

My recommended cycle for you...

Take one gram of protein for every 1-2 pounds of your body weight, along with some Cellmass.

[Hellmaskbanned]

50mgs winstrol
35mgs dbol

Liver should be fine.....If you train right & hard you should make some good gains.

6'4'' 215lbs after using aas before is rather on the "small" side....May want to correct whats holding you back first.

Have bloodwork done after your first dbol/winstrol cycle?

Might be wise to see how your body was effected to determine if you should continue.


Oral cycles can work well, and can be used as safely as some injectables.

Why do you not want to use injectables , any specific goal or reason why?

[Elexecution]

If he really wants to do 2 orals, my recommendation would be TBol along with some methyl masterdrol

that should give him as much gains as dbol and winny, and will be much, much less toxic

[Huckster]

Test test test test!

[Liftnainez]

50mgs winstrol
35mgs dbol

Liver should be fine.....If you train right & hard you should make some good gains.
6'4'' 215lbs after using aas before is rather on the "small" side....May want to correct whats holding you back first.

Have bloodwork done after your first dbol/winstrol cycle?

Might be wise to see how your body was effected to determine if you should continue.


Oral cycles can work well, and can be used as safely as some injectables.

Why do you not want to use injectables , any specific goal or reason why?

Finally, somebody who sees things differently and not only one sided.. good post hellmask

[Liftnainez]

Test test test test!

why? what is your smart reasoning behind test? Please explain.. do you even know what his goals are?

[RA]

Have you run two 17aa orals then had bloodwork done?

50mgs winstrol
35mgs dbol

Liver should be fine.....If you train right & hard you should make some good gains.

6'4'' 215lbs after using aas before is rather on the "small" side....May want to correct whats holding you back first.

Have bloodwork done after your first dbol/winstrol cycle?

Might be wise to see how your body was effected to determine if you should continue.


Oral cycles can work well, and can be used as safely as some injectables.

Why do you not want to use injectables , any specific goal or reason why?

[almostgone]

Finally, somebody who sees things differently and not only one sided.. good post hellmask

i am going to be taking winstrol tabs at 100mg ed for 6-7 weeks,dianabol at 35-50mg ed for 7 weeks,followed by clomid at 75mg ed for the 4weeks after the dianabol.have already stacked with winny and dianabol before with good results from lower dosages.would be grateful on any advice on how to stack these 3 in order to get best results.

50mgs winstrol
35mgs dbol

Liver should be fine.....If you train right & hard you should make some good gains.

6'4'' 215lbs after using aas before is rather on the "small" side....May want to correct whats holding you back first.

Have bloodwork done after your first dbol/winstrol cycle?

Might be wise to see how your body was effected to determine if you should continue.


Oral cycles can work well, and can be used as safely as some injectables.

Why do you not want to use injectables , any specific goal or reason why?

Yeah, but you notice the winstrol doseage is cut in half from what was originally posted.

AG

[Hellmaskbanned]

Have you run two 17aa orals then had bloodwork done?

Yes tbol/anavar. Results came back everything in good range.....I know some aren't as lucky thats why bloodwork should be a must.

[almostgone]

Yes tbol/anavar. Results came back everything in good range.....I know some aren't as lucky thats why bloodwork should be a must.

From my experience, that's fairly mild compared to Winny/D'bol.

AG

[RA]

I think your stack would be healthier then winny/dbol. Im just spitballing here because Ive never ran two together then had the bloodwork done.

[Hellmaskbanned]

From my experience, that's fairly mild compared to Winny/D'bol.

AG

Tbol is basically dbol...I have heard there the same in liver toxicity and I've heard there different.

I ran mine for 12 weeks at 60mgs each.......

I'm sure winstrol/dbol in the dosages I posted ran for 6 weeks would cause no probs.

[Hellmaskbanned]

And I don't want anybody to get "confused".

I think having a cycle focused on injectables can give someone better results than a oral only cycle.

But oral cycles can work out well. Orals have there place. And I feel oral toxicity Is over stated in MY experience.

Lots of factors play into cycling....Detection times, side effects, how you respond, convienence, time frame, what gains your looking for.. ...etc.


But if your looking to be a bodybuilder I can see someone needing to run injectables every cycle with test as the main ingrediant.

[almostgone]

Not questioning your post, AAS affect everyone differently to certain degree. For instance, 19-nors kill some people's sex drive and others it enhances their sexdrive.
For me, t'bol is tolerated much better than d'bol. Why? I don't know.

Would I recommend winny/d'bol? Never.
Do I believe you ran t'bol/var with no problems. Absolutely.

It's all for the sake of discussion anyway. Right?

AG

[Hellmaskbanned]

Not questioning your post, AAS affect everyone differently to certain degree. For instance, 19-nors kill some people's sex drive and others it enhances their sexdrive.
For me, t'bol is tolerated much better than d'bol. Why? I don't know.

Would I recommend winny/d'bol? Never.
Do I believe you ran t'bol/var with no problems. Absolutely.

It's all for the sake of discussion anyway. Right?

AG

Right.

[evsie]

the first winny/dianabol cycle i was on 40mg ed winny and 20mg ed on dianabol for 7wks,i gained 14 lbs,keeping 10 as i didnt use any pct.i looked into test and other injectibles but have little knowledge on how to get hold of needles and disposing of them,have no problem with being injected.would a cycle of dianabol then clomid followed by 7wk break then take winstrol for 6wks be better?

[Mesomorphyl]

I have run two orals together with great success, but not oral only... I had injectables in there and it is suggested.

Just because someone says those oppose eachother(wrong) and goodbye liver(wrong) does not make it so...Get blood tests and definately take milkthistle, b6, dandelion root at the very least. I hear liv52 is great.

running them separately is not a good idea neither and most guys are just trying to protect you from harm...

[LatinoPR]

i am going to be taking winstrol tabs at 100mg ed for 6-7 weeks,dianabol at 35-50mg ed for 7 weeks,followed by clomid at 75mg ed for the 4weeks after the dianabol.have already stacked with winny and dianabol before with good results from lower dosages.would be grateful on any advice on how to stack these 3 in order to get best results.

Do some better search,you need it, and you can get better results.





LPR ...dermatology.

[G-1000]

Yes tbol/anavar. Results came back everything in good range.....I know some aren't as lucky thats why bloodwork should be a must.

That is not even close to winny and d-bol. The t-bol is a less on the lever then the d-bol. But winny is the 2 hardest on the liver out of all the orals.

[G-1000]

Not questioning your post, AAS affect everyone differently to certain degree. For instance, 19-nors kill some people's sex drive and others it enhances their sexdrive.
For me, t'bol is tolerated much better than d'bol. Why? I don't know.

Would I recommend winny/d'bol? Never.
Do I believe you ran t'bol/var with no problems. Absolutely.

It's all for the sake of discussion anyway. Right?

AG

Agree 100%

You only have one live. Why abose it with a d-bol winny cycle. Also if this guy drinks on when he is on cycle teh liver is fu-ed for sure.

[G-1000]

My advise for some one that wont stick is this.

Oral only cycle with var. You will get better gains in the long run. And you will have much less sides and look better when making gains. You can run 12 weks on var at 60-80mg day and it still will not be as hard. Oh and when your done with a var only cycle you will still have a good liver.

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

For the price of var, and the gains he would get..wouldnt it just be a waste? Var is extrememly expensive. Why not just take a high dose of BCAA's with a high protien diet and some esterfied creatine? youd keep mostly all the gains, save some money, probably make more gains, and be healthy. Cant put a price on health.

[Elexecution]

Anavar costs too much considering the results from it

Why not a TBol only cycle? I had great success with mine

[Hellmaskbanned]

That is not even close to winny and d-bol. The t-bol is a less on the lever then the d-bol. But winny is the 2 hardest on the liver out of all the orals.

I thought tbol was lighter on the liver also , but I've heard it is just like dbol in this regard , because they are so very similair.

I consider running Tbol/Var for 12 weeks at over a total of 100+ miligrams would be considerable to Dbol/winstrol for 6 weeks under 100mgs.....No doubt.


+ I did a 6 week run of oral winstrol after that.......Still got my liver.