what is Phenobolone, 100mg/1ml nandrolone phenylpropionate

[Ironarms]

does anyone have a clue what this is?

[almostgone]

it sounds like 100mg/ml NPP. It's a short ester nandrolone (short ester vesion of Deca).

AG

[Ironarms]

im looking on this forum and cant find any posts on this?

[almostgone]

Ahem....

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199841

AG

[Ironarms]

have u ever used this before? so its just deca but a faster acting ester meaning its in quick and out quicker than other decas?

[davidboy]

i think its deca this shorter ester

[almostgone]

You've pretty much got it. For me, there's much less of a bloated look/water retention.

AG

[Ironarms]

wow thanks, reading this info now....does it have to be done ed?

i will be running prop 100 mg ed and i wanted to throw soemthing else in. Keeping this cycle moderate and short for 8 weeks.

[Ironarms]

age 25
5 foot 10
9% bf
205 lbs
done about 4-5 cycles

1-8 prop ed 100 mg
1-8 npp ???????????
aromasin through the entire cycle and through pct
pct- 300/100/50

i also have hcg....would it be needed in a short cycle like this?

[Ironarms]

should i do 400 mg a week of npp? 2 mg per lb, body weight? which i would do eod then

[almostgone]

I would be happy with 50-75mg EG of NPP and 75-100mg of test prop ED. But that's what has worked well for me.(Only ran it once)
You could start @ 75mg of prop ED for 10 weeks and 50mg of NPP ED for 8 weeks and see how it goes.

HCG wouldn't be required IMO.

AG

[Ironarms]

1-10 prop 75 ed
1-8 npp 50 ed
week 8,9,10 5,000 iu hcg
3 days after prop start clomid 300/100/50
run aromosin ed throughtout entire cycle

looking to put on quality muscle gains hopefully resulting in 12-20 lbs

[almostgone]

BajanB, I see you viewing. You've ran NPP a couple of times, haven't you?

AG

[Ironarms]

almostgone, what type of results did u experience when you ran this cycle?

[almostgone]

1-10 prop 75 ed
1-8 npp 50 ed
week 8,9,10 5,000 iu hcg Is this EW or a total?
3 days after prop start clomid 300/100/50
run aromosin ed throughtout entire cycle

looking to put on quality muscle gains hopefully resulting in 12-20 lbs

Wow, that's a buttload of HCG! I don't really think it's necessary, but let's see some more input.

AG

[Ironarms]

i have 3 amplues of 5,000 iu each

[Ironarms]

was looking to do 1 amp a week.....too much?

[almostgone]

Yeah, for me. I generally go old school with HCG and start it about halfway through the cycle @ 500iu E3D. Also, if I use HCG, I incorporate Nolva.
On the other hand, some use HCG during PCT and do well. But 5000iu/week for 3 weeks is overkill IMO.
I'll drop out now and let others throw in their 2cc.

AG

[pumpd4lif]

not needed to take all that hcg 1st day past last prope injection start hcg 250 ui ed till day 7 day 7 take 500 ui then start clomid next day along with nolva hcg is much more effective in ed low dosages. u can really do damage to ur natrual production of testosterone by using high amounts.if u dont notice ur boys swelling or dropping after 7th day of hcg run it at 500 or 750 ui ed for 5 more days then start pct.at low ed dosages hcg has been known to shrink banine prostate tissue(non cancer prostate growth)no need for large amounts

[Ironarms]

this might sound stupid, but if i have 3 vials and each vial is 5,000 iu, how do i measure it.....do i combine all 3 amps into 1 bottle and use a slin pin????

i amp contains the liquid and the other amp contains the powder, totalling 6 amps

[pumpd4lif]

this might sound stupid, but if i have 3 vials and each vial is 5,000 iu, how do i measure it.....do i combine all 3 amps into 1 bottle and use a slin pin????

i amp contains the liquid and the other amp contains the powder, totalling 6 amps

no that will be a waste only reconstitute one amp.if u get a 10 ml bottle of steril water 0.5% ba mix one amp of ur 5000 ui hcg into it this will make 500ui per cc

[Ironarms]

the amp that has the water in is called sterile water right?

i can buy sterile water on ar right????

[pumpd4lif]

the amp that has the water in is called sterile water right?

i can buy sterile water on ar right????

or from ur source

[almostgone]

almostgone, what type of results did u experience when you ran this cycle?

Very hard, dry gains with less suppression than I get from Nandrolone decanoate (Deca).

AG