Anybody know Pinnacle? Or Bill Roberts Personally?

**Warrior21** · 10-08-2006, 12:01 AM

Does anyone in here know Pinnacle or Bill Roberts personally. Pinnacles post 'understanding androgen actions' ties into what I have been studying. It most definately seems that my coactivators are fked. Coactivators can be different for different drugs. Anyways I bet Pinnacle would have the answers I seek. Someone said he lives in Miami or something, I go down there all the time. I need to talk to this man. If not Pinnacle, I'd gladly talk to Bill Roberts.

Any help on this would be HUGELY appreciated.

**HORSE~** · 10-08-2006, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Warrior21

Does anyone in here know Pinnacle or Bill Roberts personally. Pinnacles post 'understanding androgen actions' ties into what I have been studying. It most definately seems that my coactivators are fked. Coactivators can be different for different drugs. Anyways I bet Pinnacle would have the answers I seek. Someone said he lives in Miami or something, I go down there all the time. I need to talk to this man. If not Pinnacle, I'd gladly talk to Bill Roberts.

Any help on this would be HUGELY appreciated.

Who is Bill roberts??

Do you mean Anthony Roberts??

As far as Penn goes you can try to pm IBdmfkr or Bigmaxx they both consult with him on deit,aas usage and contest prep they might be able to help you to get in touch with him....

**Warrior21** · 10-08-2006, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by horse2006

Who is Bill roberts??

Do you mean Anthony Roberts??

As far as Penn goes you can try to pm IBdmfkr or Bigmaxx they both consult with him on deit,aas usage and contest prep they might be able to help you to get in touch with him....

Bill Roberts is huge on steroids. He created Mag-10. He's also really good with pharmacokinetics of steroids.

Anyways I'll be talking to them. Thanks! Big time! I love you! (In a tough macho way, lol)

**HORSE~** · 10-08-2006, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by Warrior21

Bill Roberts is huge on steroids.

He created Mag-10. He's also really good with pharmacokinetics of steroids.

Anyways I'll be talking to them. Thanks! Big time! I love you! (In a tough macho way, lol)

Awwh I gotcha now I dont know how to get in touch with him sorry.....

Good luck hope you get things figured out.......

**guest589745** · 10-08-2006, 12:21 AM

PM I**MFKR, he can help you get ahold of him if hes not busy himself.

**Warrior21** · 10-08-2006, 12:24 AM

Got em, thanks bro. I keep reading and reading but the more I read the more apparent it is that I cannot solve this on my own. It would take years for me to solve the puzzle on my own. That and that most of the info I need now hasn't been discovered. Then again, I know a doctor who has a cure for cancer......so.

**rake922** · 10-08-2006, 12:29 AM

Holy crap this is scary...

I PMed I**MFKR asking to know who Pinnacle really is.. and a name I could google... So weird that somebody started a thread on this

**guest589745** · 10-08-2006, 12:31 AM

What ?

**rake922** · 10-08-2006, 12:32 AM

I found it bizarre that the same time I PM pinnacle asking For a name connected to the Screen name Pinnacle............................somebody makes a post about it

**Warrior21** · 10-08-2006, 12:36 AM

Yep, stuff like that happens. Anyways yed I** is a good guy. He's going to help me get in touch with Pinn when his show is over. Until then maybe I should start gearing up with no-ester steroids.

**chest6** · 10-08-2006, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by rake922

Holy crap this is scary...

I PMed I**MFKR asking to know who Pinnacle really is.. and a name I could google... So weird that somebody started a thread on this

lol wat

***G-1000*** · 10-08-2006, 08:12 AM

Ha ha you think they are going o talk with you.

**cj1capp** · 10-08-2006, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by gsxxr

Ha ha you think they are going o talk with you.

what gsxxr said.

**AnabolicAndre** · 10-08-2006, 10:10 AM

RAKE, why do you want to know his real name.

**fLgAtOr** · 10-08-2006, 10:32 AM

cough cough sketchy cough

**SS1476** · 10-08-2006, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by fLgAtOr

cough cough sketchy cough

+1 I agree

**AnabolicAndre** · 10-08-2006, 12:02 PM

ohhh rakeeee where arrrrrrrrre you?

**powerliftmike** · 10-08-2006, 12:34 PM

I know Pinns real name and contact info, but you are gonna have to have legit reason to contact him. and keep this to PMs of course.

**powerliftmike** · 10-08-2006, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by rake922

Holy crap this is scary...

I PMed I**MFKR asking to know who Pinnacle really is.. and a name I could google... So weird that somebody started a thread on this

Originally Posted by rake922

I found it bizarre that the same time I PM pinnacle asking For a name connected to the Screen name Pinnacle............................somebody makes a post about it

DEA agents are not welcomed here

**rake922** · 10-08-2006, 12:37 PM

I wanted his actual name so I could google it... Then view his pics

If I can't... I'll live

**fLgAtOr** · 10-08-2006, 12:40 PM

Dude, is that SC's pic in your Avi?

**rake922** · 10-08-2006, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by fLgAtOr

Dude, is that SC's pic in your Avi?

It's Chris Janusz

**fLgAtOr** · 10-08-2006, 12:53 PM

So it is Swole Cat...Why? He train you or soemthing?

*EDIT* ...If you don't mind me asking...

**rake922** · 10-08-2006, 01:01 PM

If you really care enough then PM me

**IBdmfkr** · 10-08-2006, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by powerliftmike

DEA agents are not welcomed here

That's exactly what went through my head, also Warrior wanted to meet with him in person and knew where he was generally located.. Pinn won't be happy when I tell him this later today. Weird.

**fLgAtOr** · 10-08-2006, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by rake922

If you really care enough then PM me

Nope. Just curious.

**Warrior21** · 10-08-2006, 01:35 PM

I'm not DEA. Have you guys seen the advice I offer on other's cycles? I don't think DEA would spend so much time researching just to play it off like tehy are a legit member.
Skullsmasher, if you are around please back me up on this. That guy knows me.
If you are still in doubt check out my "Any non-responders out there?" thread. I've put over 75 hours of research into that thread within a couple of weeks. I doubt any DEA agents would be so eager to figure out why steroids don't work for them.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-08-2006, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Warrior21

I'm not DEA. Have you guys seen the advice I offer on other's cycles? I don't think DEA would spend so much time researching just to play it off like tehy are a legit member.
Skullsmasher, if you are around please back me up on this. That guy knows me.
If you are still in doubt check out my "Any non-responders out there?" thread. I've put over 75 hours of research into that thread within a couple of weeks. I doubt any DEA agents would be so eager to figure out why steroids don't work for them.

Suurrreeee

DEA!

**Warrior21** · 10-08-2006, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

Suurrreeee

DEA!

Dude are you fkin serious! SO I looked up the Cytochrome P450's for fun? Multidrug resistance gene, oh yea that was all an act! Steroid coactivators (whihc Pinnacle had a post on), yea that was all part of the act right? Give me a break. This has got me so fkin frustrated I cannot sleep anymore.
Hellmask you just posted that to spite me.

**Warrior21** · 10-08-2006, 02:34 PM

AND FYI I post on 3 other boards with the same name. Swifto I know you seen me on Mind and Muscle with the same deal, they have been less helpful than this board even. They try to tell me the reason I'm not gaining is because of an STD. Well shit if I had one I would weigh 110 lbs, not 215.

**guest589745** · 10-08-2006, 02:38 PM

IMO I think warrior is just a dude lookin for answers to his problem. I dont really understand where you guys are getting these accusations from. The ****in guy is just lookin for help.

But ya never know, anyone could be anything on here. That goes for us all.

**stupidhippo** · 10-08-2006, 02:39 PM

tell me warrior how did ur endo meetings go? and did they end up costing u a bunch??

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-08-2006, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Warrior21

Dude are you fkin serious! SO I looked up the Cytochrome P450's for fun? Multidrug resistance gene, oh yea that was all an act! Steroid coactivators (whihc Pinnacle had a post on), yea that was all part of the act right? Give me a break. This has got me so fkin frustrated I cannot sleep anymore.
Hellmask you just posted that to spite me.

But seriously , thats kind of a odd ? to ask in a thread.
You and rake come off as pinnacles stalkers lol.

**guest589745** · 10-08-2006, 02:42 PM

He got the idea to meet pinnacle for consultation purposes I believe, on his problem and thought it might be necessary to be physically with him for testing or something of that nature.

Cut the guy some slack, he's just anxious to solve his issue.

**Warrior21** · 10-08-2006, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

He got the idea to meet pinnacle for consultation purposes I believe, on his problem and thought it might be necessary to be physically with him for testing or something of that nature.

Cut the guy some slack, he's just anxious to solve his issue.

Thank you Skull! I'm glad you at least have an inch of compassion for me. You're a good guy bro. When/if I figure out whats going on, I'm going to share the info/treatment with you so we start responding better!

**Warrior21** · 10-08-2006, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

But seriously , thats kind of a odd ? to ask in a thread.
You and rake come off as pinnacles stalkers lol.

I asked for Pinnacle or Bill Roberts. If anyone has Bill's email I'd gladly talk to him and leave Pinn alone. Of course, both of their opinions would be better.

**Warrior21** · 10-08-2006, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by stupidhippo

tell me warrior how did ur endo meetings go? and did they end up costing u a bunch??

I could not afford to pay 1500 for the guy in Boca. I can't pay that money and run the risk of him not being able to help me.
ANother thing I did was search for all the endocrinologists in my area which are covered by my insurance. Last Wednesday I called 35 endocrinologists, most of them are very booked. Also, when I tried talking to their nurses I found out they were very anti-steroid. If you know a good endo in FL who is steroid-friendly let me know. I'll be going to him ASAP.

**stupidhippo** · 10-08-2006, 03:03 PM

i personally think they cant help u but I was just interested... I mean from a medical point of view its not very significant problem: making exo AAS work for an eugonadal male.. not gonna see many research projects on that funded.... if u happen to find someone who for some reason happens to study just that area for some reason u might get lucky.. I personally believe its pretty sure the reason for ur condition will remain unknown for quite some time.. hope im wrong though..

**vitor** · 10-08-2006, 03:06 PM

Bill Roberts holds a bachelors degree in Microbiology and Cell Science and a doctor degree in (Ph.D) in Medical Chemistry.

There is "lots" of reading materiall by Bill on the net where he goes in detail about everything you need to know about steroids. Yust do some searches...

**AnabolicAndre** · 10-08-2006, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by stupidhippo

i personally think they cant help u but I was just interested... I mean from a medical point of view its not very significant problem: making exo AAS work for an eugonadal male.. not gonna see many research projects on that funded.... if u happen to find someone who for some reason happens to study just that area for some reason u might get lucky.. I personally believe its pretty sure the reason for ur condition will remain unknown for quite some time.. hope im wrong though..

I dont think that is the case cause from my research and studies I have done in pharmacokinetics, approx. 20% of all produced drugs are in one way or another affected by cytochrome p-450. TESTSTERONE is one of them.

So basically what you need to know is how to safely and temporarily supress p-450. But you cant do it all together cause c P-450 is used in many of the bodily functions.

PS. warrior I sent you a PM

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