sust or deca

[11twister11]

hey guys, i am not certain about what to take- im thinking of trying deca with 30mg ed dbol or would i better with sust 250 and dbol? im 28yo 85 kilos 6'1 have only done a dbol only cycle before this. i have been training for 4 yrs. im just not sure about combining a sust / deca stack just yet and want to try a course of one or the other. any tips from your previous experiences would be appreciated.

[goose]

How did the Dbol cycle go? What gains did you keep?

[perfectbeast2001]

I would suggest a single ester Test like test enanthate. It is easier to keep blood levels stable and should give some great gains. Don't even think about Deca on it's own it will shut you down hard and with no test you will losr libido for a long long time.

[11twister11]

thanks for info. i did ok on dbol , i ran 30mged for 6 weeks . felt graet the whole time and recoveries were really quick. i gained approx 3.5 to 4 kilos after my pct. thanks for the info on deca, i was getting confused with shit i was reading, i did read about it shutting down ur test and a lot of people always seem to mix it with a test cycle. i just want an un complicated cycle. what do you recommend test enanthate dosing/weekly how much, how long for a first time injector?

[BigNate]

For first time users most recommend 500mg/week. Split the injections up into 2 shots. As for length of cycle I would say 10 weeks, but I would have enough enth or cyp on hand in case I was still getting good gains and wanted to extend the cycle two weeks.

[hosam4ever]

test e 500 mg for 10 /12 weeks
dbol 40 /50 mg ed 1st 4 weeks
with nolva or or any AI 7 dont forget the proper pct

[chuck89gt5.0]

I think sust stacked with deca is a great cycle, throw in some drol for even more gains.