Enlarged Prostate

[arnold_of_malta]

i went to my docter and asked him about testosterone. i asked him what are the dangerus of us bb that take testosterone on and off. he told me mostly commen side effect is Enlarged Prostate its grows 100% he told me in the future you have to operate it 100%. i asked him is there any more dangers ? he told me testosterone is very safe and can do you positive things but that of Enlarged Prostate is the problem. he told me its the dose is not that high testosterone is not bad it make good thinks.

what do you think about testosterone and dangers???????

[arnold_of_malta]

what do you think?????

[Kale]

The fact is Dr's dont know what causes Enlarged Prostate. As you age your Prostate grows as your Testosterone levels drop so how Test can cause enlarged Prostate is beyond me. I have an enlarged Prostate by the way. There are many studies that say Yes its Test that is the cause and many others that say it isnt the cause. Personally I think Estrogen is a bigger factor than Test and there are studies that show that as well.

[arnold_of_malta]

The fact is Dr's dont know what causes Enlarged Prostate. As you age your Prostate grows as your Testosterone levels drop so how Test can cause enlarged Prostate is beyond me. I have an enlarged Prostate by the way. There are many studies that say Yes its Test that is the cause and many others that say it isnt the cause. Personally I think Estrogen is a bigger factor than Test and there are studies that show that as well.

ok but what harm will test do in the long term of life?????????????????

[arnold_of_malta]

from studing on testosterone it look too be really safe

[Kale]

ok but what harm will test do in the long term of life?????????????????

Well if it turns out they are right, the potentials are Prostate Cancer, or if its just enlarged you will need to have an operation to reduce it as it can affect your ability to piss. If they do that operation the side effect is that when you ejaculate nothing comes out of your penis, it fires back into your bladder and you piss the cum out later.

[arnold_of_malta]

Well if it turns out they are right, the potentials are Prostate Cancer, or if its just enlarged you will need to have an operation to reduce it as it can affect your ability to piss. If they do that operation the side effect is that when you ejaculate nothing comes out of your penis, it fires back into your bladder and you piss the cum out later.

the risks of prostate cancer is rare he said very rare but prostate enlargemnt is very ver comment with testosterone in the long run. but out harm with testosterone is very safe. a bit acne is danagerous but thats not risky you get over it easy with some accutane

[Kale]

Actually Prostate Cancer is THE MOST COMMON form of cancer in men and 90% of ALL men have enlarged Prostates by the time they are 60.

[arnold_of_malta]

Actually Prostate Cancer is THE MOST COMMON form of cancer in men and 90% of ALL men have enlarged Prostates by the time they are 60.

yes yes your right but the doctor told me by taking testoterone you increase the risk of enlarging it not getting cancer with it. testosteroen is aa very safe drug.

[arnold_of_malta]

we are not talking like pros they take 4grams a week we are talking about taking 750mgs- 1000mgs max weekly with aramidex

[arnold_of_malta]

discuss the dangerous of testosterone if there are?

[arnold_of_malta]

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[guest589745]

I found this study regarding nandrolones effects on the prostate and it seems that it actually reduces he size of it. Can anyone else comment on it ?



Karbalay-Doust S, Noorafshan A.
Anatomy Department, School of Medicine, Shiraz University of Medical Sciences, Zand Avenue, Shiraz, Fars 71348-45794, Iran. [email protected]

It has been shown that nandrolone decanoate which is one of the anabolic-androgenic steroid compounds changes the testis structure and sperm quality but quantitative studies of the prostate have received less attention. Control rats received the peanut oil and experimental group received nandrolone decanoate for 14 weeks. Then the rats were left untreated for 14 weeks. After 14 weeks of withdrawal, the prostate was studied using stereological methods. The mean prostate weight decreased approximately 39% (p<0.009) in nandrolone decanoate treated rats. The mean total prostate volume, glands, epithelia, fluids and collagen bundles reduced approximately 30% (p<0.03), approximately 31% (p<0.03), approximately 41% (p<0.02), approximately 31% (p<0.05) and approximately 59.5% (p<0.02) in the experimental group. The mean total luminal surface of the glands and total length of the vessels decreased approximately 40% (p<0.02) and approximately 46% (p<0.009), respectively, in the nandrolone decanoate treated rats. The height of epithelium did show no difference. It can be concluded that nandrolone decanoate causes atrophic changes in the components of rat prostate.

PMID: 16597504 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

[guest589745]

Or if you are worride about tumors, try Perillyl alcohol. I have no idea what it actually is so you will have to look into it mroe but it has an anti tumor effect on the prostate.

[guest589745]

I think this is nandrolone but I am not sure:

7alpha,11beta-Dimethyl-19-nortestosterone: a potent and selective androgen response modulator with prostate-sparing properties.Cook CE, Kepler JA.
Organic and Medicinal Chemistry, Science and Engineering Group, Research Triangle Institute, PO Box 12194, Research Triangle Park, NC 27709, USA. [email protected]

7alpha,11beta-Dimethyl-19-nortestosterone, made by 1,6-methyl addition to 17beta-acetoxy-11beta-methylestra-4,6-dien-3-one, was a highly potent and selective androgen response modulator, with enhanced androgen receptor binding, androgenic activity and anabolic:androgenic ratio over its two monomethyl homologs.

PMID: 15686944 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

[arnold_of_malta]

thank you for your help
are there any dangers with testosterone??????????

[guest589745]

Not much when you are young, the risk incerases with age. Consiquentally, older men are the ones who would benefit the most from it too.

[guest589745]

And that drug isnt nandrolone, I think it is demethadrolone or something like that.

[blackh2]

hey bro not to take the attention of your post!! i wonder how ur post stays in this loungs and when i wanted help with my heart questions. they move the mf to rehad where no one goes at all!!!!!

[guest589745]

hey bro not to take the attention of your post!! i wonder how ur post stays in this loungs and when i wanted help with my heart questions. they move the mf to rehad where no one goes at all!!!!!

Yea I know what you mean, ya gotta be careful how you word it I guess ?

[BajanBastard]

I think this is nandrolone but I am not sure:

7alpha,11beta-Dimethyl-19-nortestosterone: a potent and selective androgen response modulator with prostate-sparing properties.Cook CE, Kepler JA.
Organic and Medicinal Chemistry, Science and Engineering Group, Research Triangle Institute, PO Box 12194, Research Triangle Park, NC 27709, USA. [email protected]

7alpha,11beta-Dimethyl-19-nortestosterone, made by 1,6-methyl addition to 17beta-acetoxy-11beta-methylestra-4,6-dien-3-one, was a highly potent and selective androgen response modulator, with enhanced androgen receptor binding, androgenic activity and anabolic:androgenic ratio over its two monomethyl homologs.

PMID: 15686944 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Shit that's trestolone with another methyl-group. Never seen it before.

[guest589745]

Shit that's trestolone with another methyl-group. Never seen it before.

Oh ok, I was getting demethodrolone or something but I don't know as much as you.

Hey, you know how to translate that shit baj ? You should make a thread or something, seriously.

[BajanBastard]

Once you learn the positions of the basic steroid structure it's easy.

7alpha,11beta-Dimethyl-19-nortestosterone

Ok i break it down like this.

7-alpha, 11 beta- Dimethyl.

This basically says there are methyl-groups in the 7th alpha (alpha is shown as a dashed bond, pointing 'down) and the 11th beta (beta is shown as a solid bond pointing 'up')

19-nortestosterone

Testosterone with a carbon atom removed from the 19th position (note positions 19 and 18 of testosterone are methyl-groups) aka nandrolone.

[mavsluva]

arnold you are only 22. You should not worry about prostate for a couple
of decades.

I was diagnosed with prostate cancer when I was 23 (5 years ago). Most people assume that prostate cancer is most common in men that are of old age. That myth is actually incorrect. It's never too early to be conscious about your health.

[rhed]

How bout adding saw palmetto to our daily vitamins and minerals. Will that do some kind of benefit or help for enlarged prostate in the future? Like preventing EP from happening?

[Kale]

How bout adding saw palmetto to our daily vitamins and minerals. Will that do some kind of benefit or help for enlarged prostate in the future? Like preventing EP from happening?

Its crap dont waste your money

[Mista Massive]

kale, i get a boner everytime i read one of your posts